Comment by onFinal on 03/03/2025 at 14:29 UTC

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View submission: The Trump administration may exclude government spending from GDP, obscuring the impact of DOGE cuts

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Here's my argument for DOGE - and believe me that effort is minimal because Elong is awful in governing and managing people.

There is fraud. To the tune of billions being shed because of a lack of oversight. So having an entity look at those is important. It exists - Covid funds, social security scams, Medicare scams are huge.

That's where my support stops.

Here's my what-the-fuckery statement:

1. If the Pentagon can't pass an audit to save it's life. It needs the chop until it is in line.

2. If there are scams in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security - it needs the chop. That benefit needs to be limited until "the people" take control. That means the rich, don't get it.

These issues can be found and verified online and are readily out there.

And "the people" is the House Ways and Means Committee. Those people, those Representatives, have failed in their duty and have abdicated responsibility to Trump and Musk. They are the "waste" in government.

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Comment by codliness1 at 03/03/2025 at 15:14 UTC

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Thing is, Trump and Musk are talking not about the bit part fraud which accompanies any scheme in every country throughout history where people can claim money - and which can be addressed with better security systems and oversight, which have historically not been funded properly.

Nor are they talking about institutional errors and mismanagement, which again are addressable with better processes, training, and management oversight, and even independent auditing on a regular basis.

They're instead trying to argue that entire departments are committing fraud, such as that USAID is fraudulently giving money to things that don't exist. They're claiming that there are millions of dead people and children claiming social security benefits, where there just aren't (if you just take every social security number in the social security database as a sign that someone attached to it is receiving a social security benefits, then you're either a massive fucking idiot or you're deliberately misrepresenting the data).

Your last paragraph - I can 100% get behind that though.