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View submission: Trans Women, Male Privilege, and the Intersectionality of Patriarchal Oppression
All of your concerns are correct. Please note that I noted trans women seldom face misogyny BEFORE they transition. Once they transition, any remnants of male privilege are rescinded and they are replaced by transmisogyny or just misogyny if the person is able to pass. And yes, generally transmisogyny is far more nasty and aggressive than general misogyny.
Comment by daremyth_ at 29/01/2025 at 23:23 UTC
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I would counter that they are often held to very cis-normative standards when trying to express and understand themselves pre-transition, which is definitely a form of misogyny.
Imagine having your natural feminine inclinations, mannerisms, and expressions be explicitly labelled as reflecting badly on you - not just for the traits you do have, but for the cis- traits you lack.
Then imagine spending a long time trying to reconcile those differences and please society in any way at all, until finally you realize it's just not going to happen (so you transition).
What you were told is wrong amounts not just to archetypes of femininity, but to the very essence of it that was always deep within you, and that was nearly crushed by the world's misogynistic interpretations and expectations of you.
Comment by Cravdraa at 30/01/2025 at 00:43 UTC
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I deeply disagree. Trans women experience misogyny right from the very begining.
Not only is it constantly expressed indirectly through policing of gender norms, but it also often imbed a deep shame over wanting something that society says is wrong, even before they realize it themself. Bullying or even abuse for having feminine tendencies IS straight up misogyny.
But it still goes even deeper than that. Because we all absorb the messages that are pushed onto by society, and young trans girls have a natural tendency to internalize those aimed at the people who they relate to most.
You can easily see this by the fact that mental health issues typically associated with women such as eating disorders appear about as often in trans girls as they do cis girls.
It feels to me that you might be generalizing and projecting your own experiences as a trans woman onto other trans women.
In my own experiences nothing is ever so cut and clean.