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When other people are talking about gender, they’re referring to innate gender identity as experienced by an individual.
Well that's really just wrong. There's no such thing as as "innate gender identity" and there cannot be. I've mentioned this several times but I'll do it again, the concept of gender only began in the 1960s and it's precisely because of people like Money and Butler that we even have a conceptualization of gender identity. To say it's "innate" is pure madness.
When all your other arguments follow from this fact, this is the root of the problem. If you can't conceptualize the fact your beliefs are not innate but based on ideologies you passively absorb, including about gender, we're not going to be able to have a coherent conversation. Slavoj Zizek[1] is absolutely worth reading on this topic because it's important to understand how ideology is the air we breathe and yet unless being told by people who make the observation that it's there, we wouldn't be able to identify it as a source of our ability to live.
1: https://bigthink.com/the-present/slavoj-zizek-ideology/
Comment by shivux at 13/01/2025 at 06:29 UTC
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There's no such thing as as "innate gender identity" and there cannot be. I've mentioned this several times but I'll do it again, the concept of gender only began in the 1960s and it's precisely because of people like Money and Butler that we even have a conceptualization of gender identity.
I don’t see the logic here. It’s true that our present concepts of gender are relatively recent, but that’s no reason to think the “innate gender identity” some people are positing *can’t* exist. Plenty of things exist whether or not we have a concept of them.