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View submission: Do non-binary identities reenforce gender stereotypes?
Yes I will spell it out for you, though your snarky “rent free” comment makes it seem like you’re the typical 16-20 year old immature redditor not really interested in a real conversation, I’ll still spell it out for you.
Your self righteous outrage in response to some mild snark makes it seem like you're the typical 60+ year old immature reddit who is only interested in bitching about others but terrified of looking inward. I generally don't act on such assumptions, but I'd say my view is more accurate than yours if you do.
The logical solution is to reject the concept of gender, because it is the culprit behind people feeling alienated.
This is literally what non-binary people do. They say "hey this gender stuff is actually kind of dumb and I don't define myself though that lens". It's the rest of us being illogical by clinging to gender norms.
astly note the context, where I was replying to someone saying basically “internal sense of gender” is some magical thing that you “just know”, that is a load of bullshit and self gaslighting, the error is to think that how you feel about who you are has to, in any way, have anything to do with a completely made up concept of gender.
We all have internal senses that direct our actions. I've never met a straight person who didn't simply "know" they were straight without having to try any gay stuff. All concepts are made up. It is totally natural that people associate themselves with concepts. There is no such thing as this "free identity". Defining yourself with a single label is misguided, but you're deluding yourself if you deny that you are a member of an interlocking set of human group classifications.
Comment by btafd1 at 12/01/2025 at 17:31 UTC
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OK then stop confusing me with contrasting petty comments and then hitting me with some actual substance, lol. And no I'm not 60, I'm not even half that.
When my whole point is that gender is bullshit, "non-binary" isn't exactly relevant. I'm rejecting gender as a whole, not just gender as a binary system. Gender as a binary system is even *more* stupid, but like I said trying to categorize people with gender labels is pointless, people are unique, and the traits people can have in common comes from *infinite* factors that far surpass typical gender norms, from culture/upbringing/where you're from, to literally how your parents raised you, even their sexual/intimacy history, etc. so why use such a reductionist logic to take someone's identity and tie it to some gender?
And before you say people do that with religion and other things my stance is the same. Identity is so rich and unique to each person and their entire life determines that, way too complex, and it is pointless to reduce it to a label or even a set of labels.
If you're making the argument that someone can call themselves "masc" or whatever other gender, in the same way they'd call themselves "liberal" or whatever, then sure, but again that's not really the way gender is implemented right now at all whether in the binary crowd or the non binary crowd