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View submission: R/Askmen discusses getting swarmed by women
"To say that straight men are heterosexual is only to say that they engage in sex (fucking exclusively with the other sex, i.e., women). All or almost all of that which pertains to love, most straight men reserve exclusively for other men. The people whom they admire, respect, adore, revere, honor, whom they imitate, idolize, and form profound attachments to, whom they are willing to teach and from whom they are willing to learn, and whose respect, admiration, recognition, honor, reverence and love they desire… those are, overwhelmingly, other men. In their relations with women, what passes for respect is kindness, generosity or paternalism; what passes for honor is removal to the pedestal. From women they want devotion, service and sex.
Heterosexual male culture is homoerotic; it is man-loving."
Marilyn Frye, The Politics of Reality: Essays in Feminist Theory
Comment by wingerism at 28/01/2025 at 01:33 UTC
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Obviously reductive but not without some basis in reality, and very insightful as to whom misogynists consider to be real people.
In my experience though alot of men who are misogynists have very broken relationships to other men too, which I would hesitate to call love in many cases. Like alot of the positive emotions or associations between misogynists become twisted versions of the words she was using.
Comment by OldManFire11 at 28/01/2025 at 12:27 UTC
-3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
That's pretty fucking sexist for someone who claims to be a feminist.
Comment by Initial_Cellist9240 at 28/01/2025 at 20:42 UTC
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I’m bisexual AF but my difficulty forming deep male friendships due to… reasons… had me taking a very different lesson from this quote than the obviously intended one 😂