Comment by Magic_Corn on 02/09/2021 at 03:36 UTC

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Flu numbers decreased because mask and social distancing work.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm[1][2]

1: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

2: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm

Vaccine mandates have existed for centuries and have been constitutional for over 100 years, as Supreme Court ruled in 1905 Jacobson v Massachusetts.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/[3][4]

3: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/

4: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/197/11/

There took exactly 2 google searches. If you want civil discourse, bring evidence based argument to the table. NNN members could have easily found this information if they were interested in discourse and reaching an evidence based conclusion.

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Comment by [deleted] at 02/09/2021 at 04:35 UTC

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It's not as though these are esoteric sources, unmentioned or glanced over.

The Supreme Court's decision doesn't preclude vaccine mandates being utilized for governmental overreach. It also doesn't mean their decision was the correct one. As we see today, most politicians do not have our best interests at heart. And around 15 years later, the scientific and medical community were in strong favor of eugenics. I'd argue they still are.

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In a far darker chapter, the Jacobson decision also provided judicial cover for a Virginia law that authorized the involuntary sterilization of “feeble-minded” individuals in state mental institutions.

https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court[1][2]

1: https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court

2: https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court

It also predates the Nuremberg Code, of which the first point states that voluntary consent is essential, and that the person undergoing the medical experiment should exercise free power of choice without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion.

Telling people they can't work or buy food unless they have a vaccine passport screams coercion and a decision under duress to me.

As far as masks and social distancing being the cause of flu cases dropping - okay, so by that logic, then why are covid cases spiking, especially particularly during the peak of the vaccine roll-out in March of this year? Why are the highest vaccinated countries having the highest amount of covid cases (Israel)?

Keep in mind, there is no specific test for covid variant. And in many cases, people have gotten positive covid test results... when they didn't even take the fucking test at all. Those testimonies existed among others, in that sub.