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Regarding the men's group stuff- it's not particularly difficult to find groups that happen to be all men, so making it codified or part of their identity as an "all-male" group is largely unnecessary. I dont even mean that in the sociological "men are the default and all our institutions cater to them" way. I mean that you can just go to a local MMA class or Magic the Gathering event or insert whatever male-dominated hobby and more than likely find a group that just happens to be all men
Comment by CherimoyaChump at 15/02/2025 at 00:03 UTC
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I mean that you can just go to a local MMA class or Magic the Gathering event or insert whatever male-dominated hobby and more than likely find a group that just happens to be all men
There's something to be said about what often happens when a woman joins one of those groups though, and that does happen sometimes. I'm not sure how to sum it up - if you know you know. But the result is that the group dynamic can really change, and sometimes it kills or damages the group.
To be clear, it's not necessarily the woman or the men's fault. Often neither. People are just playing the roles they have been trained to play. I think it's better to place the blame on greater society.
But the point is that sometimes there is value in codifying the all-male attribute of a group.
Comment by pretenditscherrylube at 17/02/2025 at 20:20 UTC
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Ironic that you bring up MTG because MTG (more so than most dorky male dominated hobbies) is, like, full of trans women in the US. My spouse (a trans woman) literally will go to MTG events and they will be 75% trans women.