Comment by sweatersong2 on 14/02/2025 at 19:57 UTC

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View submission: Men, Women and Social Connections - Roughly equal shares of U.S. men and women say they’re often lonely; women are more likely to reach out to a wider network for emotional support

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I have hunch/conjecture that the identification with male loneliness has to do with a more existential condition than something you can put a number on.

There’s this popular British song from the 70s called Up the Junction (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQciegmLPAo[1]) which focuses on a story with a lot of subtext about male loneliness. Something interesting about it is there is a gender-switched cover Lily Allen did of it which rubbed a lot of people the wrong way, because in thinking it could work the same way showed she didn't really "get" the point. It's not often that people sincerely take offense on behalf of something "for" men.

1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQciegmLPAo

In the song, the narrator tells about falling in love, getting a lady pregnant, working longer and longer hours to put away money for her and the kid, and then being left for a soldier two years after as his drinking had gotten out of hand. So he sacrificed himself for a future he never got to see. That particular kind of loss speaks to some deeply rooted feelings a lot of men experience

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Comment by MyFiteSong at 15/02/2025 at 06:30 UTC

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Was she just expected to endure the endless abuse of an alcoholic? He didn't "sacrifice himself". He threw it away.

Comment by bananophilia at 15/02/2025 at 15:00 UTC

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That kind of experience and feeling isn't unique to men though. The difference is that a man leaving would usually leave the kid too.