馃懡 bodagon

Not gonna lie, the stuff in the USA is really freaking me out. Is there a reasonable approach to all this?

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馃懡 skaffi

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But, resisting or not, when a regime falls, you can't expect real, lasting change, if there is no one around who are committed to sustaining that change. The slide towards extremism can often become self-perpetuating, when an increasingly large number among the liberal and moderate parts of both the intelligentsia, and middle class with opportunity, emigrate due to affairs having become too extremist. I hesitate to call it brain drain, because it's about more than skills and know-how.

I fear that Russia may already be past the tipping point. The scary thing is, I don't think there's a way back, and I have no idea what the way forward needs to be. 路 1 week ago

馃懡 skaffi

@lucifer_jehovah_smith Re: Leaving

Indeed. It's more than that, though. Leaving is more like giving up (which I could never hold against anyone). It's very hard to resist a regime you no longer live under. I have a friend in St. Petersburg, whom I offered to help get away on a work VISA. She would rather stay, to affect change. As a friend, I would rather that she was here, but I can definitely respect her decision. I am trying to preach peaceful revolutions to her, then, but she's just waiting for someone who will give her a gun, and stand shoulder to shoulder with her. 路 1 week ago

馃懡 edanosborne

Emigration seems like the only long-term solution. However, choose your destination carefully:

https://www.politico.eu/article/mapped-europe-far-right-government-power-politics-eu-italy-finalnd-hungary-parties-elections-polling/ 路 1 week ago

https://www.politico.eu/article/mapped-europe-far-right-government-power-politics-eu-italy-finalnd-hungary-parties-elections-polling/

馃懡 mediocregopher

Me and my wife emigrated from the US to EU a few years ago, I'll say it was _not_ at all an easy process for us, and not something I would tell anyone to "just do". Having a US passport lets you go places for tourism easily enough, but a passport isn't a residence permit. Doing it with kids sounds nigh impossible, and probably a massive setback for the kids socially besides, unless they're still very young. 路 2 weeks ago

馃懡 lucifer_jehovah_smith

@danrl It can be a very winning strategy for two reasons. 1. It can help to preserve or strengthen your mental health. 2. More importantly, focusing on family and community and the like creates solidarity, and solidarity is one of the people's most effective weapons. We need resilient families and communities more than ever. 路 2 weeks ago

馃懡 danrl

i know this is not a winning strategy, but i have just been ignoring the news lately and focused on my own family and friends and local community. 路 2 weeks ago

馃懡 lucifer_jehovah_smith

I'll give an honest answer that a lot of people (including me) won't be happy with. I think maybe the best thing that could happen is for Vance to replace Trump. Trump and Musk are chaos monkeys, sowing discord with every tweet and every speech. Under a hypothetical President Vance, we *might* have a chance of preserving some semblance of the rule of law and avoiding Trump's "revenge agenda" for the next four years. Vance is dangerous: a puppet of oligarchy, but he doesn't have that murderous narcissist cult leader vibe of Trump, nor does he have Trump's acting ability and celebrity status. 路 2 weeks ago

馃懡 lucifer_jehovah_smith

You know, I got into an argument with somebody on the Internet about Russians a few months ago. And this person was like, either they should emigrate or they're complicit with the regime, to which my response was an enumeration of reasons why leaving a totalitarian hellhole is easier said than done. 路 2 weeks ago

馃懡 bodagon

where would you emigrate to? Trump seems certain to take down the rest of the world with us :( 路 3 weeks ago

馃懡 darkghost

Easier said than done once you have a family. 路 3 weeks ago

馃懡 byte

yeah, emigrate out of the shithole. you're in luck that it's simple to do with US passport (I imagine you have one) 路 3 weeks ago