103 upvotes, 5 direct replies (showing 5)
View submission: Ukrainian thoughts on Azov
I really don’t know what to think about Azov. I hear many different things, and many reputable media outlets had numerous stories of many… problematic and alarming things about Azov up until very recently.
HOWEVER, it is quite clear the whole “neo-nazi controlled government” justification used by Russia to invade is bullshit. If they were truly concerned about ultranationalist/neo-nazi infiltration of Ukraine then they would not be covertly supporting (or at the very least, looking the other way) the numerous neo-nazi and Russian ultranationalist fighters in the separatist militias over the past 8 years.
Comment by Gombacska at 20/03/2022 at 02:36 UTC
17 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Suffice that one source (ahem, the Kremlin) say nasty stuff and the media reproduce it. Reputable media can also be mistaken, especially when the sources contradict each other.
Comment by [deleted] at 20/03/2022 at 01:01 UTC
32 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Wagner Group….
Anyways, in a national war of survival I don’t think anybody cares about ideological purity. Neo-Nazis can be prosecuted once the survival of the state is assured.
Comment by JQA1515 at 26/03/2022 at 03:27 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Azov is absolutely a Nazi group. Doesn’t justify Russia invading. But this is a conflict between two nations with many far-right folks
Comment by FlyEmpty9793 at 06/04/2022 at 19:53 UTC
2 upvotes, 1 direct replies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc[1][2] how about this?
1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc
2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc
WARNING: GRAPHIC
Comment by crusoe at 15/04/2022 at 00:15 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Far right elements hold more seats in Poland and Hungary than Ukraine.
Also, reading up on Azov and other battlions, it seems Ukraine has cracked down on troublemaking elements.
It does sound like beyond conferring with the US and NATO on military training, conferring with the US Justice Dept and FBI on fighting their local mafia and corruption post war would be good too.