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View submission: What we’re working on this year
Similar to what u/pudding7 and u/lonelyboyisme said, it’s a bit of both. There’s no plan to get rid of Old Reddit and a lot of work to be done to get to a place where redditors are happy in a world without it. (As we said somewhere else, 4% of redditors may seem like a small percentage but it’s still millions of people[1].)
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/v3frc1/what_were_working_on_this_year/iay2n72/
edit: Removed the word immediate, as we really have no plans to get rid of Old Reddit.
Comment by Dobypeti at 03/06/2022 at 02:23 UTC*
18 upvotes, 1 direct replies
a place where redditors are happy in a world without it
Since new reddit is fundamentally differently designed than old reddit, what you're saying is impossible unless an option will be added to the redesign to make it look and work like old reddit 1:1 (or at the very least very similarly) with new features while also adding for example old reddit-like CSS support* to the redesign... Oh wait, a "new reddit with old design" wouldn't support Reddit Enhancement Suite still.
1: https://reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/6auyq9/reddit_is_procss/
There’s no plan to get rid of Old Reddit
(...)
4% of redditors may seem like a small percentage but it’s still millions of people
However, the admins are making and will be making it harder and harder to use old reddit (and 3rd-party reddit apps), are they and will they not? Not fixing the 4+ years old new reddit–old reddit link formatting bug__*__ (and the selective feature API support [plus straight up blocking content on the mobile website]) for example speak for themselves.
Schrödinger's old reddit "support": no plan of getting rid of it currently, but want redditors to be "happy in a world without it", and making it harder to use with feature disparity+incompatibility and unfixed bugs.
Actions speak louder than words.
__*__Links posted using the reddit redesign's WYSIWYG (Fancy Pants) editor may be broken on old reddit and 3rd-party mobile apps (plus the mobile website), because for example hyphens and underscores are escaped with backslashes which show up on these platforms thus breaking the links (also happens when you switch to the Markdown editor from the other on the redesign).
Example posts/comments:
one[2],
two[3] (4+ years old post ffs),
three[4],
four[5],
five[6],
six[7],
seven[8],
eight[9],
nine[10],
ten[11],
eleven[12]
2: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/nwv50z/old_reddit_users_see_thousands_of_broken_links/
3: https://reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/8kqfii/links_with_dashes_are_broken_on_oldreddit_if/
5: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/sxqrzh/new_reddit_fancy_pants_editor_inserts_backslashes/
6: https://reddit.com/r/beta/comments/t8rnuc/discovered_bug_in_new_reddit_code/hzqalzk/
7: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/p7wk2t/the_redesign_adds_a_hidden_backslash_to_escape/
8: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/pv5m2y/urls_posted_in_new_reddit_display_in_old_reddit/
9: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/nllwno/some_reddit_clients_are_escaping_underscores_and/
10: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/ore9ge/urls_with_underscores_sometimes_have_backslashes/
11: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/oylywq/some_links_in_comments_particularly_those_with/
12: https://reddit.com/r/bugs/comments/nztgwr/urls_posted_in_the_redesign_using_the_fancy_pants/
Comment by [deleted] at 02/06/2022 at 20:30 UTC
45 upvotes, 2 direct replies
When you say "work to be done to get to a place where redditors are happy in a world without it." all I can hear is echoes of Blizzard getting on stage and telling everyone that they don't want Classic World of Warcraft. "You think you do, but you don't."
"You think you want to use the old site forever, but you don't! You actually want to use our new site, because we know better what you want, than you do."
That is how this message comes off. It sounds confident in your redesign. It sounds confident in your ability to deliver a superior product. It also sounds like one of the most arrogant things ever, just like Blizzard did. Look how that turned out. Now they're clinging to classic because it makes money, and it turns out (wow!) that people do sometimes know what they want.
People like me want old reddit. We don't want the new design for a myriad of reasons, but in the end it does not *matter* why, we want what we want. You can either accept that, and give us what we want which I can tell you right now is indefinite support of old.reddit, or just rip the band-aid off my man. Every minute that passes by where you hem and haw and dance around what you actually want to say, will make the backlash to the decision bigger and more difficult to handle. The longer we use the site the way we want, the more upset we're going to be when it goes away. I can *confidently* say that if I am forced to use that new design, I will stop using the website entirely. I won't like that very much, because I enjoy browsing Reddit, but I will do it, because I hate a terrible UI and browsing experience far more, and I can go to a bunch of other message boards to talk about video games, complain about how Game of Thrones ended, and search for leaks on upcoming movies of a comic nature.
Just say what you mean. I know it's hard for PR folk to do. I know you're often paid to do the opposite, but you all are just making it more difficult for yourselves. If you are going to take the old version offline, you need to give a timeline, and you need to do it sooner rather than later. None of this vague ambitious talk about everyone preferring the new site. That is almost certainly never going to happen, and you'll end up forcing your hand when you don't want to, instead of bringing it in for a nice safe landing.
Comment by EisernerVorhang at 02/06/2022 at 20:01 UTC
58 upvotes, 1 direct replies
There are no plans to get rid of Old Reddit.
There’s no immediate plan to get rid of Old Reddit ... We’ll have more to share later in the year.
So still there is a plan for next year then? As expected classic usual redditor nonsense.
I mean I'm more than fine to use old.reddit because it is perfect. I don't want to use any of these so called new features because they are not features that suits for me because I prefer to use reddit as a whole and not just like a twitter or instagram feed, this place is for me still a bunch of discussion boards and I really don't need so called gimmicky social media features.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/06/2022 at 23:58 UTC
19 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Take a look: https://imgur.com/a/nJD92YT
One version is easy on the eyes, *fast* to scroll up and down, easy to search, and bereft of (most) crap.
The other one is "new reddit" - bright, hurts my eyes, for some reason which I will never cease to hate doesn't use the entire width of my monitor (seriously wth??) and guess what else? I couldn't even search for it on new reddit, I had to carefully compare which conversation thread it was in and manually scroll down to find it.
Comment by LG03 at 02/06/2022 at 23:25 UTC
34 upvotes, 1 direct replies
60% of mod actions are performed in old reddit
You know what that says right? The people who have been here the longest know for a fact that old reddit is superior. There is no scenario where I want to use the redesign, doesn't matter how many changes you make to it. It's objectively worse to old reddit.
A lot of people say this but the day you get rid of old reddit is the day you lose a lot of veteran users which, by your own metrics, includes a substantial number of moderators.
Comment by night_owl at 02/06/2022 at 20:45 UTC
21 upvotes, 0 direct replies
a lot of work to be done to get to a place where redditors are happy in a world without it.
that sounds exactly like a plan to get rid of it, or maybe not a "plan" *per se* but more of a goal?
By talking about the idea of "redditors are happy in a world without it" (which seems pretty damned specious) you are clearly implying that the goal is to get to a point where old reddit will be deprecated.
So what you are saying is that the goal is to get of old.reddit, but you don't have plans on how to get to that goal? But you are talking about work to be done to get to that goal, so it is clear you do have a plan.
So you simultaneously do have a plan and also do *not* have a plan and it is schroedinger's old.reddit now
Comment by willowsonthespot at 03/06/2022 at 00:46 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Can you guys make new reddit look and kind of function like old reddit? It feels like most redditers rather have the more functional design. I for one hate how the newer version operates like with autoplay and pause videos when you scroll by them. As well as not being able to drag to increase image size. Maybe that last part is RES but it is still more functional that new reddit.
Comment by SmurfRockRune at 03/06/2022 at 01:02 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
and a lot of work to be done to get to a place where redditors are happy in a world without it
Never gonna happen. If you remove old reddit, reddit will die because the biggest content creators will all leave and go to a new site and that site will become the new "front page of the internet." I don't understand why tech companies are so obsessed with finding the perfect thing and then just... changing it.
Comment by techiesgoboom at 02/06/2022 at 21:57 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Given that 60% of mod actions are performed in old reddit, are there any thoughts to building it (or something like it) into a space dedicated to moderating from?
When I approach reddit to moderate I do so with an entirely different mindset and intention compared to when I approach reddit as a user. Having an interface dedicated exclusively to modding and designed with moderating in mind without caring about the user experience would be fantastic.
Comment by useless27118 at 02/06/2022 at 20:38 UTC
21 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I’m going to make something very clear. You remove old reddit, I’m gone forever
Comment by dontnormally at 02/06/2022 at 21:45 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
4% of redditors may seem like a small percentage
What would you say about the rumour that all the best unofficial apps all work off of old.reddit features and would break if old.reddit were removed?
Comment by m1ndwipe at 02/06/2022 at 22:02 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Old Reddit is better than New Reddit in every conceivable way.
Literally, unless you are going to scrap New Reddit and start again there is no conceivable way it will ever be better.
Comment by IdRatherBeLurking at 03/06/2022 at 16:48 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
If y'all get rid of old.reddit I'll fucking nuke every subreddit I've ever made. Y'all don't deserve the time and care we've put into this place.
Comment by BuckRowdy at 03/06/2022 at 15:18 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Old reddit is a clean design. New reddit and the official app are full of clutter and wasted space.
Comment by BFeely1 at 04/06/2022 at 17:22 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Could you consider developing a better CSS skinning platform for New Reddit so it can have at least close to the same around of UX customization as Old Reddit?