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View submission: What we’re working on this year
You say
There are no plans to get rid of Old Reddit.
but then say
But until we have a web experience that supports moderators (which includes feature parity), consistently loads and performs at high-levels, and (to put it simply) the vast majority or redditors love using, Old Reddit will continue to be around and supported.
Which is it? If you reach feature parity on the web, is old reddit going to go away?
Comment by kriketjunkie at 02/06/2022 at 19:46 UTC*
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Similar to what u/pudding7 and u/lonelyboyisme said, it’s a bit of both. There’s no plan to get rid of Old Reddit and a lot of work to be done to get to a place where redditors are happy in a world without it. (As we said somewhere else, 4% of redditors may seem like a small percentage but it’s still millions of people[1].)
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/v3frc1/what_were_working_on_this_year/iay2n72/
edit: Removed the word immediate, as we really have no plans to get rid of Old Reddit.
Comment by pudding7 at 02/06/2022 at 18:58 UTC
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They can both be true. There are no plans to get rid of it, but at some point in the future it's likely to happen. Which would really suck.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/06/2022 at 21:57 UTC
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It seems pretty clear to me.
"I have no plans" to do something is not the same as "I will not" do something.
For example, I have no plans to eat a cheeseburger... but you can bet I probably will in the next week or two, basically whenever the mood strikes.
That said, I believe them when they say they have no plans to get rid of Old Reddit. Which is to say, they aren't actively *planning* on getting rid of it. Which is also to say, regarding the "feature parity" bit, when they do reach feature parity, they reserve the right to make plans to get rid of it. But those plans do not exist today.
It's funny though... they show an iPhone... if they get rid of Old Reddit, I'll probably just stop using Reddit on the computer. And mostly use it on my iPhone... using /r/ApolloApp. Typing on an iPhone (vs Gboard for Android, or my mechanical keyboard hooked up to my gaming rig) is the least ideal way to type, but Apollo is also the most ideal way to browse Reddit, and technically it wouldn't be that hard to type a comment on the PC, Telegram it to myself, and paste it into Apollo. Or if it really comes down to it, get a Bluetooth keyboard. Both would be better than being forced to use the new Reddit interface.
What Reddit administration really need to do is get some folks who swear by Old Reddit, and sit them down and watch them actually use Reddit. Obviously not people who browse subs they wouldn't want their mother seeing them on, but more regular people. Find out what they like, and have them use the new interface for a while. Find out what they don't like about that. There is a way forward for most Old Reddit users.
(Also, it's not just Old Reddit, it's /r/Enhancement. Without RES, Reddit wouldn't be nearly as good on the desktop. And maybe it's destined to leave the desktop behind. Maybe we all are. But for those of us who like to share our thoughts, and avoid acronyms (or initialisms or whatever, like "ngl" or "smh"), a physical keyboard and a bigger screen are going to be ideal. This isn't Twitter. We aren't limited to a few sentences. This is a long form forum with threaded discussions. It warrants a keyboard and a monitor.)
Comment by ywBBxNqW at 02/06/2022 at 19:42 UTC
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I think it's a way of phrasing it that sidesteps the issue. They probably mean they don't have any definitive plans at the moment but they are absolutely considering it as an inevitability. It's marketing speak.
Comment by HTC864 at 02/06/2022 at 19:31 UTC
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Of course it's going away. They just don't have it in their timeline yet.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/06/2022 at 19:10 UTC
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Yes. That is what they are saying. They are saying eventually they intend to close down support of old.reddit.
Now, they are saying it is in some distant future, where there is complete feature parity for moderators, and they also state they want "the vast majority" of redditors to love using it. They do not consider 4% old.reddit use to be a minority enough, I guess. Maybe they are waiting for 99% the other way?
imo, they'll shutter it as soon as they are able, they are likely suffering from pride of their new design they worked so hard on, and old.reddit users basically give them the finger every time they log in without using it. All that development effort, so 4% of users can tell them to get bent. I'd be a little annoyed too.
Comment by Just_Another_Scott at 02/06/2022 at 19:31 UTC
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They also said only 4% of all Redditors use old Reddit. That's not something they are going to continue to support. Once they get that 60% of moderators to switch over it doesn't make business since to keep it around.
Comment by gatemansgc at 02/06/2022 at 22:49 UTC
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Well hopefully they never get those features working so we'll always have real Reddit