Comment by KeyserSosa on 18/04/2023 at 18:07 UTC

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View submission: An Update Regarding Reddit’s API

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That's a whole lot of words to not actually say what's changing.

The legal terms are even longer.

Okay so you want new bots to use the devvit platform instead of the old api, makes sense.

Agreed. We’re designing the dev platform to a large extent around building better bots that can respond faster, etc.

So, you're planning to just completely turn off free access to the public api? People have to use the devvit platform or pay? If that's not the case could you be more specific about what is being limited to the "premium access point" and what isn't?

No. We’ve always had ratelimits in place for API usage, but we’ve not been the best about enforcement, clearing space for a premium tier (as mentioned) with higher limits, etc.

Reddit will limit access to mature content via our Data API as part of an ongoing effort to provide guardrails to how sexually explicit content and communities on Reddit are discovered and viewed. (Note: This change should not impact any current moderator bots or extensions.)

Limit how? What content will be removed from what endpoints?

We’re introducing additional safeguards to how developers access sexually explicit content from our API across all endpoints, ensure (all the while) not to break moderation flows that may depend on these.

On the face of it this seems like the first step to disabling the public api completely

Not the intent.

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Comment by Postpone-Grant at 18/04/2023 at 18:13 UTC

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We’re introducing additional safeguards to how developers access sexually explicit content from our API across all endpoints, ensure (all the while) not to break moderation flows that may depend on these.

This is corporate speak. Please tell us what that *means* in practice.

Will mature content still be available through the Data API? Or only through the paid API? What specifically is changing?

Folks who provide third party clients to Reddit have users who view and submit both SFW and NSFW content, and it would be helpful to know what is about to change in that regard.

Comment by 13steinj at 19/04/2023 at 02:38 UTC

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According the the maintainer the the Apollo app, usage at that scale would have to be paid and the app would have to move to a subscription model.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/12ram0f/had_a_few_calls_with_reddit_today_about_the/jgty4lt/

I can't see this as anything other than a direct attack on third party apps and potentially browser extensions.

This will be a quick way to turn reddit into another mindless clone of facebook, which appears to be the goal. So bravo on the corporate speak thus far and getting the press confused enough that people that don't dig into details will miss it.

Comment by Watchful1 at 18/04/2023 at 18:15 UTC

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Thank you, that does make me feel a lot better.

No. We’ve always had ratelimits in place for API usage, but we’ve not been the best about enforcement, clearing space for a premium tier (as mentioned) with higher limits, etc.

If this is just enforcing the 60 requests a second limit more strictly and adding a paid tier with higher limits I'm a big fan. Some paying clients will hopefully mean you can dedicate a bit more developer resources to updating the api (in addition to the changes being made due to devvit).

We’re introducing additional safeguards to how developers access sexually explicit content from our API across all endpoints, ensure (all the while) not to break moderation flows that may depend on these.

Safeguards or just removing the content completely? Will, for example, posts in NSFW subreddits simply not appear in /api/info calls? Or will their feeds be inaccessible through the api? Or is this just some level of whitelisting or opt in? I totally understand restricting NSFW content from the site in general, advertisers don't like it, but I don't understand the motive for removing it from the API. What behavior are you hoping to stop by doing this?

Comment by Maxerature at 19/04/2023 at 15:11 UTC

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Just say what you mean: you want to get as much short term profit from reddit while killing it off in the long term because the company wants to go public. Removing NSFW from API pulls makes that blindingly obvious

Comment by shroudedwolf51 at 19/04/2023 at 02:50 UTC

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It's incredibly frustrating to see folks like you use such a large number of words to say nothing at all. If you're going to provide a notice to inform everyone, then **make sure to inform everyone**.

Reddit is a corporation, so the cowardice is completely expected. But, all this has accomplished is providing an incredibly wordy advertisement for the official app by the way of implying loss of features and signaling that the organization is going to follow in the footsteps of other corporations by eventually purging mature content off the platform.

Comment by pond_minnow at 19/04/2023 at 19:01 UTC

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We’re introducing additional safeguards to how developers access sexually explicit content from our API across all endpoints, ensure (all the while) not to break moderation flows that may depend on these.

You're still just saying a whole lot of words while not being straight with people. What will these changes mean? Give us some examples.

Comment by RoboRoosterBoy at 19/04/2023 at 14:03 UTC*

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Fuck u/spez you greedy little pig boy.

Comment by Houston_Easterby at 19/04/2023 at 19:31 UTC

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Are y'all gonna do anything to make the official app any better than the 3rd party apps before this change? That's my biggest issue is the fact that what y'all put out is noticably worse than the free 3rd party options

Comment by [deleted] at 19/04/2023 at 12:05 UTC*

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Enjoy your unemployment when this place diggs itself.

Comment by Talks_To_Cats at 06/06/2023 at 02:23 UTC*

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Not the intent.

It's still a big part of the impact. Good intentions don't mitigate that.