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Admins will be able to see it. The mods of the brigaded community flag the comments / posts as "Community Interference" and the admins handle the followup - the way they always should have been doing.
Surely you're trying for humour?
Admins have not been visibly active monitoring for this for years - they rely on reports. Mods have no way to "flag the comments" as community interference if they're unaware that community interference is occurring. And yes, that is the way it "always should have been" - except that now mods may not be able to see that there's community interference to report it, because there's a new tool to keep them from noticing antics. Brigaders don't exactly announce that they're here from outside to fuck shit up and make the locals angry.
If mods are supposed to just report by default, just in case, Admin is going to fall even further behind if they're also checking speculative reports, further reducing efficacy of reporting to Admin.
In the past, [...] admins took no action until it escalated [...] This breaks the cycle by having the admins intervene earlier in the process.
I'm not quite sure where the impression that's going to change is coming from. We've not seen that happen already, and we've prior seen all sorts of ambitious promises in the past. Community Interference became something that communities had to sort out themselves because, despite the rules and commitments made by Admin, actual enforcement fell short enough that it often was easier and more effective for mods to try and sort it out themselves than to involve Admin.
Comment by Bardfinn at 21/12/2021 at 19:56 UTC
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I'm absolutely serious.
Over the past several years I've tackled hatred, harassment, and violent extremism on Reddit.
Getting harassment countered and prevented has been my focus for the past year. Getting data into the hands of admins to metric community interference and targeted harassment of individuals has been what I've been modelling / exploring / talking to people about for this past year. Asking for the tools we need to get that data into the hands of admins is what I've been doing.
Brigaders don't have to announce that they're "here from XYZ" - they just show up and harass. Then mods report them. Even if they don't understand the behaviour to be targeted harassment of an individual.
Shifting the burden of dealing with mafias of community interference and targeted harassment from the victims to the admins is how this has to go in the future, and reporting tools and tools that enforce personal and group boundaries for freedom of association is how this has to go in the future - for the admins to have the clear, actionable data they need.