Comment by Bardfinn on 21/12/2021 at 01:04 UTC

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The mod won't be able to see the call for the brigade since it's not in their community.

Admins will be able to see it. The mods of the brigaded community flag the comments / posts as "Community Interference" and the admins handle the followup - the way they always should have been doing.

In the past, Community Interference was left to negotiation (or lack thereof) between communities, and because the admins took no action until it escalated to targeted harassment of individual moderators / users / violent threats, it created a cycle.

This breaks the cycle by having the admins intervene earlier in the process.

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Comment by IAmMohit at 21/12/2021 at 05:57 UTC

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“Community Intereference” was used by us when there was an inference to be drawn after seeing commenters’ profile. Now we’ll have an empty profile with nothing to base our decisions on. Not saying it was an only factor, but that it was an important factor.

Comment by Anomander at 21/12/2021 at 19:13 UTC

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Admins will be able to see it. The mods of the brigaded community flag the comments / posts as "Community Interference" and the admins handle the followup - the way they always should have been doing.

Surely you're trying for humour?

Admins have not been visibly active monitoring for this for years - they rely on reports. Mods have no way to "flag the comments" as community interference if they're unaware that community interference is occurring. And yes, that is the way it "always should have been" - except that now mods may not be able to see that there's community interference to report it, because there's a new tool to keep them from noticing antics. Brigaders don't exactly announce that they're here from outside to fuck shit up and make the locals angry.

If mods are supposed to just report by default, just in case, Admin is going to fall even further behind if they're also checking speculative reports, further reducing efficacy of reporting to Admin.

In the past, [...] admins took no action until it escalated [...] This breaks the cycle by having the admins intervene earlier in the process.

I'm not quite sure where the impression that's going to change is coming from. We've not seen that happen already, and we've prior seen all sorts of ambitious promises in the past. Community Interference became something that communities had to sort out themselves because, despite the rules and commitments made by Admin, actual enforcement fell short enough that it often was easier and more effective for mods to try and sort it out themselves than to involve Admin.

Comment by EdithDich at 22/01/2022 at 06:14 UTC

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Admins will be able to see it.

This is adorable.

Comment by Norci at 25/12/2021 at 11:34 UTC

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Admins will be able to see it.

Considering admins can't do anything about some persistent ban-evaders we have in our subs as long they hide behind a proxy, I have zero faith in that approach. Admin response is slow and often unsatisfactory.