Comment by lift_ticket83 on 14/11/2024 at 00:09 UTC*

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View submission: Streamlining Moderation: Enhanced Safety Features, Users Contribution Tools, Bug Fixes, and More!

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Can you clarify if these mod mails are funnelled to the "filtered" folder in modmail or do they end up in a black hole?

Correct, if enabled, the Mod Mail Ban Evasion Filter will send messages authored by suspected ban evaders to the “Filtered” folder. Without knowing the specifics of the bots, it's unclear if this would break their workflow. More info on this can be found here[1]. Please let us know if this negatively impacts anything on your end.

1: https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/15484158762260-Mod-mail-folders#h_01G8YBFB9VYVREXYWH1SCDP141

How does this handle opposite subs on the same topic?

What do you mean by opposite subs? r/NYYankees vs r/redsox? If so, this feature should be smart enough to deduce that your post for one sub might not be the best fit for another on the same topic.

Is this based on automod rules and if yes, does this only look at spam/remove automod rules or also automod rules that filter?

Yes—this is based on AutoMod configurations, and it looks for `rule_action IN ('remove', 'spam', 'mark_spam', 'filter').`It highlights to the user general settings like karma and account age requirements, and whether the user has a verified email, without diving into specific details. It then suggest steps a redditor could take in order to meet the criteria to successfully post in a community.

might I suggest comment cap

By all means, suggest away!

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Comment by SampleOfNone at 14/11/2024 at 05:37 UTC

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What do you mean by opposite subs? r/NYYankees vs r/redsox?

A bit more sophisticated then that, for instance pro abortion and anti abortion. But also, subreddits that were once created specifically because something about X wasn’t allowed on the main subreddit of X. Am I the asshole vs am I the buttface or the memes spin off for topic Y.

Yes—this is based on AutoMod configurations, and it looks for rule_action IN ('remove', 'spam', 'mark_spam', 'filter')

Can you clarify what “ rule_action IN” means? I have plenty of automod rules with “action” but I’m not familiar with “rule_action”. To me “rule_action” sounds like a phrase from the saved responses, not automod.

Will the text shown specify that posts are filtered? Because telling our users that they can’t contribute yet is simply false. We have a lot of “created a reddit account just for help on this problem” is a common occurrence. We explicitly filter to protect our community but allowing support questions form people who need help.

Comment by MajorParadox at 14/11/2024 at 16:42 UTC

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for `rule_action IN ('remove', 'spam', 'mark_spam', 'filter').`It highlights to the user general settings like karma and account age requirements, and whether the user has a verified email, without diving into specific details. It then suggest steps a redditor could take in order to meet the criteria to successfully post in a community.

Doesn't including `filter` make this misleading? Filtering implies it will go to the queue for review, but this new flow will make them think they can't post.

It'd make sense to have a separate flow like "you may have to wait for mods to review your content before it's published," or something.

Comment by SampleOfNone at 14/11/2024 at 16:27 UTC

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Without knowing the specifics of the bots, it's unclear if this would break your their workflow. More info on this can be found here. Please let us know if this negatively impacts anything on your end.

All good!

Comment by Ashilikia at 16/11/2024 at 15:58 UTC

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Yes—this is based on AutoMod configurations, and it looks for rule_action IN ('remove', 'spam', 'mark_spam', 'filter').It highlights to the user general settings like karma and account age requirements, and whether the user has a verified email, without diving into specific details. It then suggest steps a redditor could take in order to meet the criteria to successfully post in a community.

In rarepuppers, we have some filters that are intended as both spam / abuse prevention and quality assurance. For the spam / abuse prevention, all of the text that we show to users says that there is one (easy) requirement for being able to post, intended to let humans pass. But actually, we relax the requirement in a second case that's intended to be hidden from users because we don't want botmakers to know the way around our filter.

It sounds like at the very least, this will expose the second category that we use as criteria. That's not great for us, as we've been happy with this filter setup for a long time, and either have to change it or accept that at some point in the future, there will be a lot more people getting through it.

Comment by SampleOfNone at 16/11/2024 at 22:41 UTC*

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u/lift_ticket83

Community matchmaker

Has this been rolled out fully? I’m noticing some iffy things in our queues. It could be weekend crazies, but it did make me immediately think of this new feature.

Well, it appears to not be limited to the weekend