Comment by diogenesthehopeful on 22/08/2024 at 07:24 UTC

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View submission: The irony of determinism

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You have assumed that they can’t, and you seem completely convinced of this, to the point where you think that anyone who disagrees can’t be genuine.

A person can be genuine if they are in fact trying to be genuine. I think the counterfactuals play a role in the causal chain which is different from a deterministic chain because determination is a process of confirmation. We don't confirm counterfactuals because they are possibly facts and not necessarily facts. I think a genuine person will consider this instead of trying to pretend that it doesn't matter. Don't you?

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Comment by spgrk at 22/08/2024 at 07:32 UTC*

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I think that you can be free if your actions are 100% determined, fixed, inevitable, sufficiently caused, whatever your preferred term is. I truly and honestly believe this, and I have explained my justification here so many times that people now probably skip over it. What more can I say?