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View submission: The irony of determinism
The question that philosophers consider is rarely about whether determinism is true. It is about whether if our actions are fixed under the circumstances, which would be the case if determinism were true, they could still be free. You have assumed that they can’t, and you seem completely convinced of this, to the point where you think that anyone who disagrees can’t be genuine.
Comment by diogenesthehopeful at 22/08/2024 at 07:24 UTC
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You have assumed that they can’t, and you seem completely convinced of this, to the point where you think that anyone who disagrees can’t be genuine.
A person can be genuine if they are in fact trying to be genuine. I think the counterfactuals play a role in the causal chain which is different from a deterministic chain because determination is a process of confirmation. We don't confirm counterfactuals because they are possibly facts and not necessarily facts. I think a genuine person will consider this instead of trying to pretend that it doesn't matter. Don't you?
Comment by mildmys at 22/08/2024 at 07:18 UTC
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to the point where you think that anyone who disagrees can’t be genuine.
Lately my interactions with libertarians involve a lot of them saying things like 'youre Just in bad faith' or 'youre just lying about what you believe'
It's a bizarre tactic, some variation of an ad hom/strawman