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When you make excessive barriers to doing things legally you're going to get people doing them illegally . . .
Regardless of how easy or hard the process is, there would still be people coming in illegally because many, many more people are wanting to come here than we could accommodate. The US allows around 1 million people to come here legally each year. There can be valid discussions on whether that is the right amount or not. But, even if it was 5 million or 10 million per year, there are going to be more that want to come.
Comment by JadeMonkey0 at 24/01/2025 at 20:37 UTC
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To me, this is why the Trump fearmongering position is so frustrating. You're absolutely right and that creates a legitimate complex issue to discuss. How many people should we be letting in the country? Is the current amount the right amount? What should the application process look like? Should it favor certain countries or classes of immigrants over others? What should enforcement policies look like? What are penalties for violations and how are they assessed?
But we don't talk about any of that because "they're eating the cats and dogs" and all of a sudden, the rhetoric is turned up so high that both sides dig in and escalate and it becomes a culture war issue.
This is a topic I legit think most Americans can basically agree on the basics of. No one serious is saying let everyone in. No one serious is saying let no one in. We're all in the same ballpark. We just need to hammer out the details.
But that's impossible for now.
Comment by [deleted] at 24/01/2025 at 20:21 UTC
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Comment by haobanga at 24/01/2025 at 23:52 UTC
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Still, many who enter illegally would not qualify through the legal routes.
People arguing that laws should be selectively enforced based on how it affects them and whether they agree with it or not are insane.
Enforce the law. Then adjust the law as necessary.
Comment by vonblankenstein at 25/01/2025 at 03:25 UTC
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The people south of the border aren’t just economic refugees, they are in fear of their lives.