997 upvotes, 15 direct replies (showing 15)
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Even as a casual (yet long-term) user of Reddit, it blows my mind that you said admins need to discuss how to tell mods a big, sweeping change will take place. Um, just do it? Literally any effort would be nice instead of nothing. I've seen your exact "we need to consider how to better communicate with mods" comment countless times from admins over the past couple+ years. This record is so broken it's a tiny pile of dust now.
Comment by [deleted] at 19/07/2016 at 19:52 UTC
163 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Admins: We're gonna be totally transparent from here on out!
Mods: Uh, you Admins weren't at all transparent with this recent decision. We're kind of upset because, as you know, we volunteer our time to make this site work.
Admins: Oh, **right**! We messed up. Sorry, we're going to be totally transparent from here on out!
etc.
Comment by SlothOfDoom at 19/07/2016 at 20:14 UTC
57 upvotes, 4 direct replies
we need to consider how to better communicate with mods
We could send a modmail to all of the defaults, just to begin with.
We could set up a subreddit like /r/announcements that moderators could be invited to, to get warning of upcoming changes.
We could stop just dropping shit unexpectedly.
NAAHHHH.....we need to like, "consider' stuff for 2 more years. Fuck the mods.
Comment by ihahp at 19/07/2016 at 20:28 UTC
15 upvotes, 1 direct replies
If Mods get a message, it will be public (to mods and non-mods alike) within seconds. They just need to do the "in one week, this change will occur" ... rather than immediate.
Comment by Vekete at 19/07/2016 at 20:36 UTC
13 upvotes, 1 direct replies
To be fair the admins seem to not care about anything but pleasing investors at this point. I can't entirely blame them because they're a company, but they're sadly making the site shittier as a result.
Comment by danweber at 19/07/2016 at 22:35 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Hey, does anyone know of a communication platform that people could use to talk about things? Asking for a friend.
Comment by Forest-G-Nome at 20/07/2016 at 03:06 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I've seen your exact "we need to consider how to better communicate with mods" comment countless times from admins over the past couple+ years. This record is so broken it's a tiny pile of dust now.
I hate saying this but the saying goes
Fool me once, shame on you, feel me twice, shame on me.
You need to stop believing the admins. They have proven they no longer care about their mods. We are expendable.
Comment by [deleted] at 20/07/2016 at 05:44 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The admins have to do the same thing mods do. They discuss internally how to get what they want from users without the users giving them backlash or rejecting them.
By communicating first their concern is going to be just causing two rounds of backlash for something that the admins are going to do anyway.
Mod teams just work on how to very carefully word things for users to respond positively, but it's the same concept, the admins want to carefully control a more positive response from the mods.
Comment by Stormcrownn at 19/07/2016 at 20:31 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
They don't know how to inform mods while also not asking their permission.
Comment by [deleted] at 19/07/2016 at 21:09 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Lol this same thing has happened literally dozens of times both with feature changes and API changes.
Comment by lordcheeto at 19/07/2016 at 20:46 UTC
0 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Even as a casual (yet long-term) user of Reddit, it blows my mind that you said admins need to discuss how to tell mods a big, sweeping change will take place.
Yeah, I understand this. We're talking internally about how to communicate our unwillingness to do this better going forward.
Seriously, though, I get why they don't. How do you keep something under wraps if it's being blasted out to every mod? You're thinking about a feature, that may or may not even make the cut, it leaks, and you get people outraged over it for no reason.
Comment by Magister_Ingenia at 20/07/2016 at 15:29 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
They even have their own subreddit for that specific purpose, /r/modnews, which they could have used to tell us this a month ago (or at least a week). The admins don't give a shit about the moderators or quality posts. This is designed to get more clickbait, more casuals, more people who don't use adblockers, more people who *click on ads*. It's all to make money.
Comment by isit2003 at 20/07/2016 at 00:26 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Blackout Summer 2016 needs to happen.
Comment by Cookster997 at 20/07/2016 at 12:29 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It seems the admins often take a "Don't ask for permission, ask for forgiveness." stance on a lot of this stuff.
Comment by following_eyes at 20/07/2016 at 02:38 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I think they just want to watch Reddit burn.
Comment by [deleted] at 19/07/2016 at 19:59 UTC
-10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
(yet long-term)
Glad you said that, otherwise your comment would have been worthless.