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View submission: Let's talk content. AMA.
Some of the responses to your excellent point raise an interesting question for spez, too. That's this:
When does a problem jump from *users* to the *entire subreddit*? As you point out, that subreddit is appalling and it's easy to find repeated examples of individuals clearly violating the ban-level rules. I wonder how reddit intends to enforce this; I get the distinction between hate speech and inciting violence, even if I find them both loathsome, but what's to stop moderators from claiming ignorance or incompetence? If the stated purpose of a subreddit is nonviolent hate speech but the moderators simply "missed that comment" or "weren't on when that happened" every time someone says something that violates ban rules, how does reddit deal with that?
I'm really troubled by the "dark underbelly" of reddit, and the fact that /u/spez used as an example a sub with deeply rooted violent speech is really troubling.
Comment by [deleted] at 17/07/2015 at 02:04 UTC*
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Why not inform the admins they are not moderating and if they continually fail to moderate the problem users, remove them as mods/ban the sub for not following the rules and leave the content of the sub irrelevant.
Comment by Ultraseamus at 16/07/2015 at 23:43 UTC
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At the end of the day, I'm sure it will come down to there being a person who just has to make that judgement call. Which is what worries people, that someone without a clearly defined set of rules will be censoring.
The examples that /u/spez used were probably picked to emphasize that there really is a set of simple rules. That just because they find one sub despicable would not get it banned. It seems that he is suggesting that the sub name and purpose have to be clearly defined as breaking Reddit policy. I imagine the idea is that subs like coontown will essentially go dark. Can't show up on the front page, searches probably don't reach them, and with a random(ish) name like coontown you can't really guess at subreddit names and find it. Unlike rapingwomen whose name is absurdly blunt, and actually describes committing a crime. So it gets shutdown and everyone there comes up with some clever alternative name for a replacement. Which will be moved to the list of offensive subreddits where I imagine it will die.
That's the impression I'm getting at least. In practice I'm sure it will be less cut and dry. Subreddits where a majority are doing something against policy will probably be taken out.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 23:16 UTC
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Perhaps they'll monetize /r/coontown and sell ad space to bonehead record companies and neo-nazi publishing houses - hell maybe they can even make a few bucks off the bozos at the 'world church of the cremator' ("our lady of perpetual revisionism")
it's obvious that they don't mind profiting from nazis - they just don't want to *appear* to profit from nazis.
Comment by WhitePride_WorldWide at 16/07/2015 at 22:08 UTC
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Some of the responses to your excellent point
uhh.. all he did was whine and cry about how offended he is and the imagined threat to his life. If you actually read the content posted on coontown, its just black crime that doesnt make the mainstream media, statistics on the genetic differences between the races, and peoples personal encounters with blacks.