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View submission: Let's talk content. AMA.
We won't formally change or policy until we have the tools to support it. Giving moderators better tools to deal with individuals is an important part of this process. Giving our employed community managers additional tools to assist the moderators is also required.
Comment by IM_THAT_POTATO at 16/07/2015 at 20:29 UTC*
486 upvotes, 7 direct replies
So you are saying that a subreddit being banned will most often be a result of the moderators failing to uphold the sitewide rules? Will there be a warning system? Will there be an appeal system?
Edit: Does this allow a moderator to tank a community easily?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:30 UTC
52 upvotes, 8 direct replies
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Comment by SeabearsAttack at 16/07/2015 at 20:31 UTC
9 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I just can't understand how you're sitting on $50M and can hardly deliver even the simplest of updates. How about you make your software developments open source, get help from the broader reddit community, and give a realistic timeline of when the tools will be implemented.
Comment by DuhTrutho at 16/07/2015 at 20:26 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
That's... vague?
Comment by stationhollow at 16/07/2015 at 22:39 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
So is FatPeopleHate coming back? Their mods did a great job enforcing rules and it was individuals who were harassing others outside of the subreddit (and thus outside the mods' control). I doubt it though. These rules seem incredibly vague still and you're avoiding any mention of SRS or associated subs.
I guess KotakuInAction will be next since the anti-gamergate people feel harassed and threatened at its mere existence rather than anything said.
Comment by splattypus at 16/07/2015 at 20:41 UTC
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We won't formally change or policy until we have the tools to support it. Giving moderators better tools to deal with individuals is an important part of this process. Giving our employed community managers additional tools to assist the moderators is also required.
So this whole thread was a fucking waste of your time and ours? Because we all fucking know those tools are never coming.
Comment by lessnonymous at 16/07/2015 at 22:13 UTC
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It's your (Reddit Inc) site. Stop trying to suggest this is something that can be clear cut, codified and almost automated. The answer is easy but takes more courage than I've seen in the past:
We own the site. We employ community moderators and we trust them. One moderator can flag content. The moderation group then decides collectively if more severe action needs to be taken. You can ask for reconsideration. But ultimately we will back up their decision.
I think a big problem with previous actions by Reddit was because you tried to justify decisions too much. Just say "the sub was removed by the moderation team for breaking rule X". And then shut up.
If you want, allow community election of half the moderation team so the community's voice is heard.
Just stop pretending it can be anything other than subjective. If people don't like a decision they can voat with their feet and leave. I, for one, won't miss them.
Comment by reticulated_python at 16/07/2015 at 21:06 UTC
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I think it would be effective to have a strike system or something similar for subreddits that routinely violate content policy. For example, when a subreddit first starts violating the policy, they get a warning and a deadline by which to eliminate the violating posts. If by this deadline there are still a lot of posts violating the policy, the subreddit is banned.
Comment by guccigoogle at 16/07/2015 at 20:26 UTC
6 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Do you have a ETA on this?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:27 UTC
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
just fucking ban r/coontown the harass individual black people and the mods of r/blackladies
Comment by zidapi at 17/07/2015 at 01:14 UTC
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Yeah, it's difficult to have an effective police force when you've armed them with dildos.
Hopefully tools that address the issues and challenges mods are facing can be implemented relatively quickly.
Comment by Ojisan1 at 16/07/2015 at 22:13 UTC
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Agree with this wholeheartedly. Target individuals who violate policy, not entire subs. If it's moderators who are behaving badly, target those individual mods, but leave the subs intact.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 21:30 UTC
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Please hurry im worried my free speech is starting to prevent my free expression. I really need these tools and policies before its too late and I have no free expression remaining
Comment by jstrydor at 16/07/2015 at 20:26 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
What will some of those tools be?
Comment by Sopps at 16/07/2015 at 22:00 UTC
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Will you unban FPH and see if they can operate within the standards after they have actually been defined and moderators are given the tools to enforce them?
Comment by immibis at 17/07/2015 at 07:29 UTC*
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Sir, a second spez has hit the spez.
Comment by saevitiasnape at 16/07/2015 at 20:39 UTC
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How long do you expect it to take before reddit has the tools it needs to enforce these policy changes in a reliable and non damaging way?
Comment by maanu123 at 16/07/2015 at 20:28 UTC
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are we still allowed to say "1v1 me irl"?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:52 UTC
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Comment by TheGreatPastaWars at 16/07/2015 at 20:26 UTC
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For the default subs or any of the really popular ones, would you ever put a community manager in charge or will those subs always belong to the mods?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 21:11 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What type of magical tool is going to fix this?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:26 UTC*
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The reasonability of your response really depends on the tools that you have planned/will have in place.
Comment by gsuberland at 16/07/2015 at 21:41 UTC
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Can we get an automatd subreddit that shows which subreddits have been banned and why, for transparency and discussion? Think of it like a moderation action history, except for admin actions against subreddits.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:56 UTC
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Stop talking about tools. Are you geeking out over building product again?
What are these new tools in detail? I feel like "tools," will become "strategy," will become "why I left reddit."
Comment by Slimknows at 16/07/2015 at 20:51 UTC
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