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View submission: Let's talk content. AMA.
Yea, but how are you going to determine that the subreddit itself is at fault? There's going to be a few individuals in all subreddits that cause harm, how do you determine that the sub itself is at fault enough to be banned?
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:19 UTC
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This was a huge issue when /r/pcmasterrace was banned. It was the doing of a few individuals yet the whole subreddit was blamed for it.
Comment by spez at 16/07/2015 at 20:25 UTC
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We won't formally change or policy until we have the tools to support it. Giving moderators better tools to deal with individuals is an important part of this process. Giving our employed community managers additional tools to assist the moderators is also required.
Comment by pixel-freak at 16/07/2015 at 20:24 UTC
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Seems as though subreddits designed to violate a term as part of their intent or spirit would be those risking ban, while users posting content in subreddits that offends would themselves be banned.
The exception would be when a subreddit is overrun by a large amount of infringers, unchecked by moderators, in which case the new spirit or purpose of the subreddit becomes violations. In this case a ruling is made by admins regarding whether to ban individuals or a whole sub.
A subreddit like /r/holocaust could find itself in that last example, though it looks like the mods there keep it pretty tame. It was once a sub about the holocaust, but was overrun by people believing the holocaust never happened. (or something like that)
Comment by IM_THAT_POTATO at 16/07/2015 at 20:21 UTC
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This is one of the fundamental problems with this attempt at policing; the two are indistinguishable. A few people post some things on a subreddit, and it gets upvoted by a few other people, and all of a sudden a community of 20,000 is responsible?
It's going to be very difficult to word any sort of official rules in this subjective way without it boiling down to "any subreddit the admins find offensive will be banned."
Comment by Astan92 at 16/07/2015 at 20:25 UTC
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If the mods are not taking action to curtail the behavior(deleting comments, banning users etc.) would be a logical way of doing it
Comment by Guardian960 at 16/07/2015 at 20:21 UTC
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This is important. Are we going to dissolve entire subreddits due to the actions of a few?
Comment by Red9standingby at 17/07/2015 at 06:09 UTC
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Yea, but how are you going to determine that the subreddit itself is at fault? There's going to be a few individuals in all subreddits that cause harm, how do you determine that the sub itself is at fault enough to be banned?
The same way people and corporations make these types of decisions all the time. You put somebody in charge of making them, they think about it, and then make the call.
The idea that there needs to be some sort of all encompassing rule that applies perfectly to every situation in order for us to unambiguously recognize that specific situations are obviously bad is stupid.
Comment by arkhound at 16/07/2015 at 20:27 UTC
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I foresee nothing but composition fallacy occurring.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 20:33 UTC
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I would imagine similar tactics on discovering vote manipulation will be used. For instance, they can tell when you go from /r/subredditdrama to an "np" page, deactivate the "np" and go on a voting spree to your liking, which is against the rules. I imagine they would be able to note when you come from a hate sub, get in a heated discussion, and then seek out targets.
Comment by rokuk at 16/07/2015 at 20:55 UTC
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Yea, but how are you going to determine that the subreddit itself is at fault?
hey, that seems like a GREAT way to get a sub banned that you don't like, doesn't it? false flag operations until they get shut down by the morality police.
Comment by [deleted] at 16/07/2015 at 21:02 UTC
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In my opinion this is the hardest thing to decide. That said, I think you have to look at rules and mod behavior, if they do their best to remove unacceptable conduct and it they formally prohibit it.
Comment by Rocket_Admin_Patrick at 16/07/2015 at 21:47 UTC
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Exactly this, it's already happened once. (/r/pcmasterrace was a victim of this)
Comment by Internetologist at 17/07/2015 at 05:26 UTC
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I'm so tired of these hypothetical questions. It's really obvious which subs give a wink and nod to harassment
Comment by fuck_the_DEA at 16/07/2015 at 20:22 UTC
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Subs have these things called "front pages" and posts have "upvote counts." Probs that.