Comment by Mumberthrax on 06/07/2015 at 18:06 UTC*

1472 upvotes, 23 direct replies (showing 23)

Stop shadowbanning users

for example, this sort of person: http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/351buo/tifu_by_posting_for_three_years_and_just_now/

Stop subreddit favoritism - You want to have anti-harassment rules? Great. Enforce them in every. sub. equally. Other meta-reddit subs have to use np links. Why does SRS get away with being able to post direct links with obvious brigading?

np links are not a reddit thing, they're a derpy css hack and the admins have stated (well at least some of them) that they don't support them. they've said they're working on anti-brigading tools, but I don't know more than that.

*edit:** funnily enough, one of the biggest issues *I* have with reddit is the abuses of power/tools that reddit grants to moderators (ironic because a lot of mods and powerusers controlling the discussion are making out that the biggest problem is that mods need MORE tools. tools are fine and can be used for good, and they are used for bad a lot). so regarding NP links, /r/politics for example was banning users who never posted to /r/politics simply for participating in /r/modlog which does not use NP links *because* they are a derpy CSS hack, and linking to other parts of reddit shouldn't be discouraged, participating as part of the greater reddit community shouldn't be discouraged. It's kind of nuts.

*edit2:** IMO the community needs better tools to deter these sorts of abuses of power. The simplest being the option for a subreddit to have a public moderation log like the admins created in ages past. If there were an official version, it would be great. Currently the best we've got (in my opinion) is /u/publicmodlogs which I created and /u/go1dfish created a nifty frontend for.

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Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 19:08 UTC

41 upvotes, 3 direct replies

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Comment by Infamously_Unknown at 06/07/2015 at 18:25 UTC

887 upvotes, 13 direct replies

Holy shit, active user shadowbanned for three years? All the time spent typing comments nobody will ever see... that's just evil.

Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 19:20 UTC

7 upvotes, 0 direct replies

tools are fine and can be used for good, and they are used for bad a lot

Yeah especially for normal users mod abuse is a much bigger threat than any admin changes. I've had old accounts banned for getting in arguments with mods. The head mod in /r/movies started an argument with me, didn't like my opinion, and banned my account because of that. He was also a total dick about it, he sure as hell doesn't need any more tools to control his subreddit.

Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 19:26 UTC

7 upvotes, 2 direct replies

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Comment by ShadowthePast at 06/07/2015 at 18:52 UTC

26 upvotes, 1 direct replies

for example, this sort of person: http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/351buo/tifu_by_posting_for_three_years_and_just_now/

Iirc he was shadowbanned automatically for (accidentally) posting two links at nearly the same time. It wasn't an admin who did it.

Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 20:12 UTC

10 upvotes, 0 direct replies

np links are the most retarded fucking thing I've ever seen. If you find a link, on a fucking *link sharing site*, you should have every right to participate without getting banned.

Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 19:08 UTC

5 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Moderators should be limited to one subreddit and the top moderator of the subreddit should not have absolute power. I highly doubt we will see that on reddit, ever.

At the end of the day, admins and mods can be users too. Most users in reddit get screwed by mod power, and mods get screwed by admins.

Comment by rexlibris at 06/07/2015 at 21:25 UTC

3 upvotes, 0 direct replies

.np links are a pain in the ass on mobile. Even if I'm subscribed to a sub and click on a link it sometimes turns to .np, and then every sub I go to after that it stays .np while I'm just normally browsing reddit.

Comment by redwall_hp at 06/07/2015 at 22:29 UTC*

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Hi, Mumber! o/

I fully agree about this increasingly ridiculous "you can't link to other places on Reddit" or "you can't participate in this thread someone linked" mentality. Subreddits were originally just a way to filter and categorise posts, not little fiefdoms for moderators to play king in. Reddit is for discussion, not passively reading when someone links to a part where you're an "outsider." (And np links are both pointless, being both easily circumventable and annoying for the average user, as well as a shitty hack.)

Comment by [deleted] at 07/07/2015 at 02:53 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

for example, this sort of person: http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/351buo/tifu_by_posting_for_three_years_and_just_now/

Lol my first time seeing that. Poor bastard, amazed that he stayed dedicated for three years without a single interaction with another user that entire time.

Comment by tanzmeister at 06/07/2015 at 22:09 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

How about when meta links are posted you can only participate in the discussion if you were subscribed to the linked subreddit before the original post? I'm sure reddit could implement that fairly easily.

Comment by noreallyimthepope at 06/07/2015 at 22:43 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

I was banned from a rather big sub for just having posted in a comment thread on FPH—in a discussion about that subs' mods carpet banning FPH users.

Comment by jasonnug at 06/07/2015 at 22:25 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

they're a derpy css hack

You'd probably be surprised if you knew about how much functionality on the web comes from a "derpy css hack".

Comment by HulaguKan at 07/07/2015 at 10:43 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

np links are not a reddit thing

And yet people get shadowbanned for voting/commenting on np links.

Weird, isn't it?

Comment by neofatalist at 07/07/2015 at 02:56 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

/u/go1dfish... and many others like /u/politicbot and /u/ModerationLog have been shadow banned.

Comment by deadowl at 06/07/2015 at 20:31 UTC

1 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have *anything* to do with CSS, and it's certainly not a hack. You can have automoderator remove posts with reddit URLs external to the subreddit. The only issues with it are that you can't target URL shortener links to external subs specifically (URL shorteners are a bit of a universal problem for content filters), and it seems like overkill to target /r/-style links in most situations.

Comment by [deleted] at 06/07/2015 at 20:58 UTC

1 upvotes, 1 direct replies

for example, this sort of person: http://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/351buo/tifu_by_posting_for_three_years_and_just_now/%5B

Isn't that exactly what you want a shadowban to do? Convince someone they are posting when they really aren't, to prevent them from continuing to do what got them shadowbanned in the first place? That post right there is basically the poster child for successful shadowbanning.

Comment by frymaster at 06/07/2015 at 18:38 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

to be fair, considering what their submission history looked like at the time they were banned, I'd have thought they were a spambot too

Comment by TheAdmiralCrunch at 06/07/2015 at 23:48 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

I disagree. I think it's an important part of Reddit that every subreddit is in control of itself, for better or worse. If you don't like how a Subreddit runs, find another one or start another one.

Not spending time in a default subreddit is a gift, not a curse.

Comment by SharpCock at 06/07/2015 at 18:53 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

the reason that guy was shadowbanned was because his first two posts were linking to the same domain...he got picked up by the spam filter and very reasonably so.

Comment by TheProdigalBootycall at 06/07/2015 at 21:12 UTC

1 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Not a response, just stopping halfway down the page to express my lack of surprise that I haven't seen a response to a single question yet.

Comment by guimontag at 06/07/2015 at 19:10 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

I think that guy is the exception rather than the rule. Go to an empty/absent-modded sub and you'll see that there's plenty of spam.

Comment by lightninhopkins at 06/07/2015 at 21:43 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

If you don't like the mods of a sub then don't use that sub. What's the issue?