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The irony in your two gildings is that they've given money to those that are causing the problem. We just can't vote with our feet.
Reddit is great as a community engine, to spawn new places for people to talk. The problem is when we see manipulation like in The Adjustment Bureau, invisible hands fucking with things, and most people think it's ok, but it's odd. Or Dark City. Whatever, this is getting fucked.
There's nothing here!