3831 upvotes, 42 direct replies (showing 25)
/u/alienth I appreciated your post much more than the Blog post, which smacked of doublespeak given that it did not directly address the banned subreddits (it even seemed to suggest that they *weren't banned* for the reasons cited). The reasons which you have provided are, in my mind, understandable and possibly even sensible. Fair enough.
As for you, get some rest: it's Sunday.
Comment by ArmoredCavalry at 07/09/2014 at 13:42 UTC*
493 upvotes, 6 direct replies
Please provide a timely, public log (or an automated subreddit) which lists all subreddits have been banned and a detailed, clear (maybe even thoughtful) explanation as to why they were banned.
Thank you, this is my single largest complaint about this site. I had a subreddit for my deal site (/r/CheapShark), and it was randomly banned one day (after 2+ years) without any reason given.
As far as I can tell, it was not breaking any site rule. Even if it was, it would have been nice to have some warning so I could have fixed the issue. I have messaged the admins about it multiple times, but gotten 0 response.
These last couples posts about the admins wanting reddit to be an open community that caters to what its users want, doesn't mean much when you go around banning subreddits and not giving any reason or explanation for it...
I still gets messages and emails from users wondering what happened to /r/CheapShark, and I don't have any answer to give them. I'm still waiting for an explanation myself (which the admins don't seem to want to give)...
Comment by 249ba36000029bbe9749 at 07/09/2014 at 13:07 UTC
2274 upvotes, 6 direct replies
Or better yet, just leave a detailed explanation for the closure on the "banned" page users get to when they try to hit the now defunct subreddit.
Comment by SpaceSteak at 07/09/2014 at 12:47 UTC
258 upvotes, 5 direct replies
Transparency should indeed be part of any content "government" platform (see the original blog), and it's amazing that it's not.
Comment by NoxiousNick at 07/09/2014 at 13:52 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Please provide a timely, public log (or an automated subreddit) which lists all subreddits have been banned and a detailed, clear (maybe even thoughtful) explanation as to why they were banned.
This kind of sounds like /r/undelete, but like a better and more official version. I like this idea. Just like a timeline list that says "9/7/2014 - /r/TheFappening - Deleted for legal reasons" and have the "legal reasons" be a link to the actual list of reasons.
I'm really hungover so I'll stop here, but that's my two cents.
Comment by oblivioustoyou at 07/09/2014 at 13:06 UTC
11 upvotes, 1 direct replies
"I don't want to be part of a community where community voices are silenced without meaningful notice or explanation." You are already a part of a community that does this. Shadow banning is a very real thing on Reddit.
Comment by Taboggan at 07/09/2014 at 12:37 UTC
117 upvotes, 1 direct replies
As for you, get some rest: it's Sunday.
You are a kind soul.
Comment by RationalSocialist at 07/09/2014 at 13:16 UTC
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This is reddit we're talking about. You definitely won't get a list of any sort, and definitely not a list of banned subreddits and the reason why.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 12:40 UTC
13 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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Comment by ownage516 at 07/09/2014 at 12:37 UTC
23 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Holy crap, I can't upvote this enough. Since Reddit has grown into something more...like, we're kinda a big deal, I kind of understand the actions that were taken. But if you can add a certain level of transparency, that would be really cool. Like amazing. I love you all.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 13:18 UTC*
5 upvotes, 1 direct replies
A timeline and explanation for all of the subreddits that have ever been banned? I don't understand how or why that has anything to do with recent events unless you are just wanting to try to pinpoint discrepancies in the logic used to ban the different subs.
Or are you just referring to the bannings related to /r/TheFappening? I believe that he provided a very clear and thoughtful explanation about why they were banned and the timeline is that it was all at once.
edit: **if you mean that they could provide a /r/Bannedreddit sub that says *'in the future, banning explanations will go here'* then that would be great.**
Comment by fatterSurfer at 07/09/2014 at 18:11 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Thank god for you, man. Sifting through these comments last night I was struck by an absolute dearth of humanity and understanding. Thank you, thank you for understanding the implications of open platforms, as well as the practical necessities of trying to host one. You focused on a proper and limited critique of the execution of such a delicate balance and for that, you should be commended.
Comment by delventhalz at 07/09/2014 at 12:49 UTC
4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
^ Something like this needs to be implemented before the next blow up. Besides giving those in need an explanation, it will help clarify the rules and how they are enforced, helping future well-meaning reddittors avoid running afoul of them.
Comment by Scientologist2a at 07/09/2014 at 17:27 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
since he titled his post
*Every Man Is Responsible For His Own Soul*
We can also note that each person in the community is responsible for the soul of the Community.
They should **Ban Wisely.**
Comment by Mishmoo at 07/09/2014 at 17:36 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
(No one really does like that secret police feeling...)
The moment Shadowbans were enabled on this website, that feeling started creeping up. There is no transparency in that system.
Comment by cardevitoraphicticia at 07/09/2014 at 12:51 UTC
17 upvotes, 6 direct replies
Quite honestly, with all the shadowbanning of users, mod bad behavior, and then this overuse of admin power, I think we just need a new home.
Comment by CLOWNPENIS-DOT-FART at 07/09/2014 at 16:40 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Think about how much BS could have been avoided had this been the first response rather than the blog post in question.
Comment by BleedingAssassin at 07/09/2014 at 15:14 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I agree with this. The public log is a great idea. It's the transparency we need.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 15:52 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I don't think any one reddit user is privy to that kind of information. The admins run Reddit. If every "SaidThe Canadian" on reddit starts asking for this and that, then the entire reddit community starts acting like admins that feel they have some sort of say. Reddit was going to be sued for having these pictures on the site, and they would have lost. No amount of Reddit gold would keep the site afloat over a lawsuit of this magnitude. So they shut it all down. Consider it them saving you your reddit experience and just look at more cats.
Comment by wonderful_wonton at 07/09/2014 at 13:16 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I think it was pretty clear why the subreddit was banned and if anyone didn't understand, the information was made especially clear after requests from the people who were active in the subreddits.
I don't think the mods have to do anything more than what they have done.
What I do think is that the people who were active on the invasive, degrading involuntary porn subreddits have made reddit synonymous with the abuses of those beautiful young women and disgraced the whole community. Continuing to whine about the style, manner, timing and communication of the takedown is just additional egocentric, obnoxious behavior.
Really, do just let it go. You can enjoy your static relationships with your pixelated girlfriends that are stored on your computer. The additional enjoyment you got from cyberbullying the women by having it publicly online is going to have to be something you relish from memory or some outlaw website that is into such abuses.
Comment by Simcom at 07/09/2014 at 16:37 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Please also extend this to USERS that have been banned or shadowbanned! So many redditors get shadowbanned for very minor offenses and then they continue posting and have no idea that their posts are invisible! It is unethical and wrong - tell them that they have been banned and explain WHY. Sometimes people go months/YEARS wondering why nobody ever likes or responds to their comments.
Comment by justforsavesonly at 08/09/2014 at 04:48 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Last I checked there were something like 8,000 subreddits. The amount of hours & staff it would take for paid admits to manage all of that in a meticulous way is terrifying to imagine. When I think of how few posts I read & participate on but how many hours fly by, I can't IMAGINE how admins can possibly administrate over the vastness of reddit.
Comment by iam4real at 07/09/2014 at 14:11 UTC
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**However I would like to ask one thing:** Please provide a timely, **public log** ...**I don't want to be part of a community where community voices are silenced without meaningful notice or explanation.**
Hey, /u/SaidTheCanadian
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 17:44 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
OP pls respond to SaidTheCanadian
Comment by customreddit at 07/09/2014 at 22:46 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The world is grey & Reddit will never be able to cogently enforce standards without creating ambiguities that look unfair. It's a testament to their dogged commitment to free speech that they let most of what exists go.
Comment by greyjackal at 07/09/2014 at 13:18 UTC
2 upvotes, 1 direct replies
More to the point, kudos for sticking the head over the parapet, too. That inbox is going to be hell for a while.