Comment by [deleted] on 07/09/2014 at 10:07 UTC

1885 upvotes, 24 direct replies (showing 24)

View submission: Time to talk

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Comment by capyoda at 07/09/2014 at 11:13 UTC

823 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Agreed.

Should have just took it down and state matter-of-fact:

"We did it from a legal and technical standpoint (or else reddit will break)."

The moral high ground / finger-wagging blog post can show up a week later when things die down (or spun differently).

Comment by DuhTrutho at 07/09/2014 at 12:21 UTC

7 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Don't forget /r/selfharmpics which according to this

1. Actions which cause or are likely to cause imminent physical danger (e.g. suicides, ***instructions for self-harm***, or specific threats)

clearly violates the rules.

• *edit**: Some users are replying to this saying that it doesn't instruct how to hurt one's self and that looking at the pictures also helps others *not* to hurt themselves by seeing the aftermath and the stories. To that I say, with posts that have titles such as "Only cure for panic attacks" and "I decorated" it will cause people to take comfort in this sort of escape and continue to hurt themselves. That along with posts that try to highlight scars as "beautiful" are going to make things worse. If they wanted to help them they'd redirect the sub to one that helps people deal with depression and self mutilation through continuous counseling, not offer quick and easy attention so that they'd continue to repeat the cycle. The first part of the rule says "Actions which cause or are likely to cause imminent physical danger" and what that sub does is just that.

• *edit 2**: I'm not here to argue whether the sub is healthy or not or if it's moral or not, what the point of my comment was and is is that the admins are being incredibly hypocritical. If they say they're taking a moral stance and post clear guidelines as to what those stances entail they need to be strict about it. Otherwise they should simply admit that they will take actions against subs only when legal actions are taken against them.

Posted by chunnybunny. http://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/2fpdax/time_to_talk/ckbhacb

Comment by 513514135 at 07/09/2014 at 12:26 UTC

14 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I don't get it. I thought /u/alienth's point was that they only remove the minimum of what is legally required.

Are you saying the other subreddit content has also already been ordered to be taken down as required by law?

Comment by OldBeowulf at 07/09/2014 at 12:42 UTC

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Huh? Did we read the same post? /r/thefappening wasn't taken down simply because it had "deplorable" content. It was taken down because of users kept reposting the underage pics. That's been standard reddit policy for a long time.

Now, if there are other subreddits out there that have a lot of underage content, now would be a great time mention them. I'm sure the admins would love to know.

Comment by d3k4y at 07/09/2014 at 13:43 UTC

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Replied with pretty much the same and then I saw your comment. I totally agree. Things in the past were up for years. Some things worse than dumb ass celebrities are still up. It was totally a PR call and nothing else. We can do without the holy than thou attitude.

Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 12:24 UTC

7 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Fucking dead children pics being the primary one here.

Comment by Paladia at 07/09/2014 at 12:32 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Why couldn't they just disable thumbnails on that subreddit? It would have solve the issue of the images being hosted on reddit and thus there wouldn't be a legal issue.

Comment by Premiumtuna at 07/09/2014 at 12:27 UTC

12 upvotes, 2 direct replies

But those ones aren't illegal. Are they?

Comment by LineOfCoke at 07/09/2014 at 12:21 UTC

5 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I don't see what the big deal is. So the images aren't on reddit. They are still readily available on a million message boards, and filesharing and image hosting sites, not to mention the blogs. Let reddit cover it's ass and you go elsewhere to fap. Its not the end of the world.

Comment by [deleted] at 08/09/2014 at 03:49 UTC

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So start e-mailing your local news station.

Hell you could make a whole news story about each fucked up subreddit.

E-mail every single one of your local news programs. They almost all have a "Do you know what is happening? You should be outraged!".

Tell them you heard about this new website called 'reddit' because of their excellent journalism on the fappening. Tell them about all the other deplorable content you found. I wonder how "Focus on the Family" feels about the dead babies.

Comment by burritoxman at 08/09/2014 at 03:24 UTC

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In a few months this won't matter because everything will just appear in the general porn subreddit a that already feature to celebrities.

The celebrities and the lawyers got into a losing battle against this stuff but the admins decided to strike a blow. Now they too are on the losing side because as long as out precious net neutrality remains ours. You cannot fight the internet.

In fact it's almost hypocritical after the huge campaign to keep the internet free.

Comment by I_SkipLegDay at 07/09/2014 at 12:31 UTC

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Why is it so difficult to understand that admins cannot start banning every subreddit that somebody thinks is 'deplorable'?

Yes, such a weak argument that they are human beings and want to say that this is a terrible thing. Even though they abide by reddit's self-governance system they can still express their opinion that those subs are terrible.

Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 13:11 UTC

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Because Lawyers Specifically asked for the Content in /r/thefappening to be taken down.

No one has specifically asked for any of the other content in any other sub to be taken down...

Also There are not a bunch of users purposly re-posting the DMCA'd content over and over again.

Comment by xaaraan at 08/09/2014 at 16:49 UTC

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http://www.reddit.com/r/celebnsfw+Fapocolypse+fappeningdiscussion+FappeningHarder+FappeningReport+fappenings+ledzepplin+nsfwcelebs+patricksbirthday+TheFappeningRebooted+TheFappeningReborn+TheFappleing+TrueTheFappening+whatfappened+whatsfappening/new/

Comment by Buildsoc at 07/09/2014 at 12:47 UTC*

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Please list the deplorable content sites. Thanks!

Edit: oh Gawd, never mind, just saw a few below. Going to throw up now.

Comment by Spoonner at 07/09/2014 at 14:09 UTC

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I doubt he was trying to really involve ethics or morals into the reasoning. It felt more like he was just explaining his, and the other staff members', reactions to it.

Comment by treein303 at 07/09/2014 at 17:57 UTC

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Yeah immediately when I saw they had banned the celebrity images I thought of /r/celebs. How is that sub still up with all of this happening?

Comment by vambot5 at 08/09/2014 at 03:43 UTC

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It's not a weak argument. It's a fake argument, probably. But it's not playing to us, it's playing to a hypothetical jury.

Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 17:59 UTC

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"deplorable" doesn't equate to the same as this if the copyright holders aren't rich enough to sue REDDIT into oblivion.

Comment by cardevitoraphicticia at 07/09/2014 at 12:31 UTC

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There are even stolen naked pictures of regular non-famous people. It couldn't be obvious that this is only being done because of outside pressure.

Anyway, this place isn't a democracy in any way. The Power goes from Advertisers->CEO->Admins->Mods->Users.

Comment by InstaGlib at 07/09/2014 at 13:04 UTC

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You mean non consensual child pornography? I think the self-righteousness of the community is disgusting. Sharing other peoples nudes against their will is deplorable, but so is watching the same nudes without their consent. If someone doesn't properly close a door to the womens locker, that does not give you the right to barge in, or even peek. How can you people be all high and mighty about stopping unlawful surveillance and all than? Maybe NSA should just open up their servers. Let everyone illegally spy on everyone. Fuck integrity, fuck privacy, it is only holy when its yours.

Comment by pico_de_gall0 at 07/09/2014 at 21:02 UTC

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Where can I find this dwarf's stolen pics??

Comment by ShockinglyEfficient at 07/09/2014 at 19:42 UTC

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I'm looking at you "sexy abortions."

Comment by OuiNon at 07/09/2014 at 12:28 UTC

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Reddit has become more mainstream and corporate. They are trying to increase the celeb AMA's constantly and even have built relationships with many celebs.

This is the point where a good friend screws you over because they see a new cooler kid in the school.