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Hiring an attorney is not necessary to issue a DMCA takedown notice. We receive takedown notices all the time from claimants who have no legal representation. You can find instructions on how to do so by a quick google search, and our DMCA contact info in our user agreement[1].
1: https://www.reddit.com/help/useragreement
Photo plundering sites and subreddits, like /r/photoplunder, are linking to publicly accessible images on the internet. We have little recourse to get those photos off of the internet, other than to recommend owners finding them issue takedown notices to the companies hosting them.
If anyone has a suggestion on how we can help make it known to the original owners that their photos are unintentionally accessible on the internet, I'd be very interested in discussing it.
Comment by CressCrowbits at 07/09/2014 at 10:32 UTC
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But the 'owners' of the photos are the person who took the photos, not the person IN the photos. In the case of many of these images, it's an ex-boyfriend who took them. In the case of the whole 'revenge porn' industry that's currently creating a stink in the UK, the photos are revealed maliciously.
How does a victim of these subs file a DMCA takedown notice when they aren't actually the 'owner' of the photos?
Finally, why don't you just do what's obviously right, protecting clear victims rather than the perpetrators, instead of having to be shamed into it by the press?
Comment by EpicCartman at 07/09/2014 at 11:09 UTC
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Just because these images are "publicly accessible images", doesn't make them any more legal.
reddit doesn't have to take the moral responsibility for taking those images OFF the other sites or informing the owners. You can start by not allowing any linkages to such images, it is suspected. Lets users report if the images or vids.
Comment by UTF64 at 07/09/2014 at 15:14 UTC
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1.
2. All the celeb nudes were also publicly accessible on the web, this is what an image host does by definiton (sure, the image host may have to remove them, but you don't have to care about that). Noone knows where the /r/photoplunder pictures originate from, but a fair amount of them come from hacked facebook accounts. So, what gives? Is it still just that celebs are more important than us "normal" people?
Comment by orangejulius at 07/09/2014 at 09:51 UTC
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All the talk about this being a reprehensible thing, sympathizing with the victims, and imagining what this would feel like if it were a family member indicates that you all understand that this content does real harm to a persons reputation and even their ability to make money.
With those statements it is sorely disappointing Reddit won't take steps to remove similar content for those without access to legal resources or the ability to navigate a DMCA take down pro se.
Comment by hansjens47 at 07/09/2014 at 10:26 UTC
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Since getting the photos off the internet is nigh on impossible, how about choosing not to be a hub for spreading the images to thousands of people?
You can take a moral stance.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 10:33 UTC
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how about a rule along the lines of "don't use reddit to index potentially illegal images".
Comment by guttplug at 08/09/2014 at 00:12 UTC
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If anyone has a suggestion on how we can help make it known to the original owners that their photos are unintentionally accessible on the internet, I'd be very interested in discussing it.
I use a Chrome extension called Search by Image[1] which lets me right click any image and search for it on Google. If that image is hosted elsewhere (and is crawlable), Google finds it and reveals it.
I'm not a programmer, but maybe someone could make a third-party tool that allows people to upload/connect all of their photos (or scan all of their online/offline photos) and run them through a filter that mirrors the functionality of this extension. This tool could also monitor a person's photos over time, and notify them if their photos appear elsewhere.
I realize this isn't a solution to the problem of people's photos being leaked and shared. I also realize not everyone has access to photos of themselves. But maybe this would help people find and track photos of themselves online, and give them the sources who are rehosting these images.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 20:18 UTC*
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Then why didn't you handle the fappening the exact same way? They only linked to photos on publicly available sites.
Comment by coaks388 at 08/09/2014 at 19:13 UTC
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The response here is sending a mixed message, differing from the entire "we didn't take them down BECAUSE they're celebrities" defense.
So just because celebs with high powered attorneys and rich bank accounts have their photos stolen, put on the internet, and have every news outlet letting them know their photos are stolen file requests, the sub gets taken down. Yet these people with little to no name recognition having their private property put on display to the world is under the defense of "linking to publicly accessible images"?
Double standards at their finest.
Comment by totes_meta_bot at 08/09/2014 at 13:28 UTC
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This thread has been linked to from elsewhere on reddit.
2: http://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2Fmeta_bot_mailbag
Comment by veryspoopy at 08/09/2014 at 01:36 UTC
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Photo plundering sites and subreddits, like /r/photoplunder, are linking to publicly accessible images on the internet. We have little recourse to get those photos off of the internet, other than to recommend owners finding them issue takedown notices to the companies hosting them.
But... this is true of TheFappening too!