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Comment by alien122 at 07/09/2014 at 11:07 UTC*
26 upvotes, 1 direct replies
~~dacvak(i think?)~~deimorz said the thumbnails can't truly be disabled.
EDIT: Actually I think it was deimorz who said it.
Comment by sp0radic at 07/09/2014 at 09:01 UTC
627 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Yeah... is the thumbnail image really the crux of this whole thing? And is this obvious solution not an option?
Comment by hojoohojoo at 07/09/2014 at 13:48 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
No one knows if ANY dcma takedown notices were actually sent. No proof has been offered.
In light of this lack of proof the only reasonable supposition is the subreddit was banned because powerful people wanted it banned.
But I believe in the good will of the mods. They can easily post copies if the dcma takedown notices from the lawyers. Clean, unredacted copies.
There is no expectation of privacy in any law anywhere about the notices. The mods are fully within the law by posting the notices. And if they are posted that will prove the good will of the mods.
Comment by ZadocPaet at 07/09/2014 at 09:01 UTC*
0 upvotes, 2 direct replies
I'm not sure I understand this part. So reddit was liable to DMCAs because it was hosting the thumbnail image of the copyrighted pictures?
That's what he said.
Here's what Wikipedia says about linking:
The law is currently unsettled with regard to websites that contain links to infringing material; however, there have been a few lower-court decisions which have ruled against linking in some narrowly prescribed circumstances. One is when the owner of a website has already been issued an injunction against posting infringing material on their website and then links to the same material in an attempt to circumvent the injunction. Another area involves linking to software or devices which are designed to circumvent (digital rights management) devices, or links from websites whose sole purpose is to circumvent copyright protection by linking to copyrighted material.
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Couldn't you just disable thumbnails for /r/thefappening or something?
Others have asked this, including me, but I haven't seen it answered. It seems like a sensible solution. Once they have the code written to make an exception for one sub, they could use it to make exceptions for other questionable subs as well.
Comment by cardevitoraphicticia at 07/09/2014 at 12:26 UTC
2 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I also don't understand why they were so "exhausted" with all the activity. Aren't DMCA takedowns automated like on Youtube? They should have to do anything manually, so why is there extra effort involved in these cases?
Comment by handym12 at 07/09/2014 at 09:00 UTC
2 upvotes, 2 direct replies
It was the pictures of minors that were causing the issue. The links to those have to be removed which results in a ton of reposts.
Think of it like the mythical Hydra. When you take one link down, two more appear.
Comment by YakimaDWB at 07/09/2014 at 16:32 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
If they just delete the thumbnails and the internet police start asking for user's info who are linking and spreading things which have been deemed illegal by the powers that be, would you want them to have to give the info under subpoena, or just ban the subreddit entirely?
Comment by dontdrinktheT at 07/09/2014 at 14:00 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I had huge respect for this site after I saw them put freedom over laws.
Well that was short lived. I didnt visit the fappening, but it was a force of internet freedom that seemed to be lacking.
Comment by TheDrunkSemaphore at 07/09/2014 at 09:01 UTC
-4 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What? A way to satisfy both the legal requirement AND give users a free speech platform?
I thought they just made a blog post and this announcement to say such a thing wasn't possible?
Comment by DonJunbar at 07/09/2014 at 10:19 UTC
-5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Stop making sense. This is probably the one post that they won't reply to, because it completely invalidates their reasoning.
Comment by sovietmudkipz at 07/09/2014 at 13:51 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Web programmer here: yes not loading thumbnails would be really easy. It's a simple css change on the custom subreddit page. There were alternatives but when you don't like the subreddit anyways why try?
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 12:35 UTC
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I think its pretty obvious this was done to please some celebs. They even say it wasn't. What clearer admission could you ask for from conde nast?
Comment by Aardshark at 07/09/2014 at 09:16 UTC
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DMCA requires that links to copyrighted images must also be removed.
Comment by oli887 at 07/09/2014 at 12:22 UTC
0 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I guess you could start /r/TheFappening2 and set it in text submissions only. Then deal with the CP like any other subreddit.
Problem solved.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 11:28 UTC
-1 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Remember, linking to illegal content is still illegal in the eyes of the law.
I don't agree with this stance and it puts reddit in a difficult situation, but that's how it is.
Comment by rushworld at 07/09/2014 at 09:08 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
You're not allowed to link to DCMA'd content either. It isn't just thumbnails.
Comment by OmnomoBoreos at 07/09/2014 at 10:04 UTC
-1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
when you submit a link to reddit it makes a little thumbnail which is stored in it's server to show others.
Comment by [deleted] at 07/09/2014 at 09:21 UTC
-2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Logic.