Comment by stevepls on 30/01/2025 at 19:53 UTC

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I'm tme & I call myself nonbinary/trans for the purposes of communicating my social location, but I do identify as a woman. woman in a lesbian way, but a woman. I would call myself transmasc but that usually is meant to communicate being male-aligned, which i absolutely am not.

once I get top surgery and a hysterectomy, I can't tell you if my dysphoria will be gone, but I think a lot of it will be. and I may go back on T for a bit, but probably not permanently.

I'm only pointing that out because I think the strict definition of being trans as an internal mismatch of gender/sex is limiting. and I think that like, just as much as someone can be a woman and have a penis or testes, someone can also be a woman and remove their breasts or inject testosterone etc etc.

this is kind of why I prefer the sogiesc framework that posits that everyone has a sexual orientation/gender identity/expression/sexual characteristics, and the right to express them however they see fit. it'd be nice to see a world where GAC is treated more like piercings/tattoos/other forms of body modification rather than as a medical treatment for a disorder.

mostly because i like, absolutely have dysphoria around gendered traits, but if I'm supposed to be understood to be "another gender" than the one I'm assigned at birth in order to receive care, then my ability to access treatment to alleviate that dysphoria is threatened.

does that make sense?

to be clear: definitely not quibbling with the rest of your comment.

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Comment by Iron_willed_fuck-up at 30/01/2025 at 20:31 UTC

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Kind of makes sense but not really? Not in an I disagree way but really more me not being able to fully understand your experience because it’s so radically different from my own. Your feelings around gender sound very similar to my partner who is AFAB and identifies as transmasc and nonbinary though not exactly the same. I do think that’s a better framework and captures all who are in our community’s experiences than what’s put forth by WPATH. It’s just a shame the current healthcare systems we work within doesn’t allow for such a framework.

I guess my point was I would caution folks who identify as cis from claiming to have experienced gender dysphoria. I think often cis people misunderstand dysphoria as simply being unhappy with certain body parts? Which is kind of a part of it but to me doesn’t really capture the multitude of complex feelings and experiences that encompass gender dysphoria. This was a topic I brought up in another post, how hard it is to convey what gender dysphoria is and feels like in a relatable way to cis people. It really kind of lacks a sense of tangibility that something like same-sex marriage has that makes it easy to relate and empathize with as an issue but honestly that’s probably true to most marginalized experiences to at least some extent.