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View submission: Elon Musk misleadingly suggests other celebrities made controversial 'Nazi' gesture
How their hand got there wasn’t the same. The end result may look bad but the whole action, not the still frame is the worst part.
Comment by veryreasonable at 23/01/2025 at 21:13 UTC
171 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Yeah. For example, according the the article, the Taylor Swift picture in question is a still frame from a video of her blowing a kiss. That's not the same thing, lol. That's *deliberately* misleading.
Comment by hyp3rpop at 23/01/2025 at 21:07 UTC
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exactly. still images can easily be anyone with a raised arm, doesn’t mean they did the salute. unfortunately for him his was caught on video and is very clearly not an ill-timed screengrab
Comment by Quebec00Chaos at 24/01/2025 at 00:08 UTC
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That's their whole argument. Take a frame, get rid of the context Et Voilà! Everyone is a nazi now. Except the guy who did the salute. Brainrot really is the plague of our time.
Comment by balltongueee at 24/01/2025 at 08:27 UTC*
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There is a reason why they intentionally do NOT show the videos of the other people "doing the salute". Because they simply are not doing the salute... while we have the clear video of Musk doing it.
This, I would argue, is yet another reason to say that Musk is a Nazi as he is using the tactic to cause confusion and downplay the offence. What I cannot understand is why nobody seems to call him out on this.
Comment by Redditbecamefacebook at 24/01/2025 at 06:58 UTC
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The end result may look bad
Wrong. The video is what matters. Putting your arm out in that fashion can happen for any number of reasons. The full motion requires intent.
Comment by fourthytwo at 24/01/2025 at 06:02 UTC
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No doubt he did it on purpose:
https://youtu.be/NjWl_RNDMSA?si=DEJcHxjiRF8jeeAN
Comment by LeonidasVaarwater at 24/01/2025 at 09:42 UTC
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They're purposely using pics instead of videos. All those pics are just badly timed stills, musk was a full on nazi salute.
Comment by KevinFlantier at 24/01/2025 at 13:52 UTC
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Worst, it's her left hand and the image has been purposely flipped.
Comment by geraltoffvkingrivia at 24/01/2025 at 07:23 UTC
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I was taking photos today and got one of a group putting their hands in a circle and throwing them in the air. The picture of them in the air all looked like they were doing it but in real life they said “Goooo team!” And were smiling. How you get there 100% matters.
Comment by ImaginaryMastodon641 at 24/01/2025 at 11:44 UTC
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You don’t—and shouldn’t—need to actually explain this though. Watching the video is where the discussion ends, full stop. It is the…
A B S O L U T E
… bare minimum of media literacy to be able to view those images and acknowledge those are still frames being shown, which should automatically cue our brains to be skeptical. It is one frame out of a plethora. We all know what a freaking wave looks like and should be able to extrapolate out of those observations.
Heck, I’d even give up that maybe someone hadn’t ever seen footage of Hitler doing it. But after a cursory google search and comparing the footage it’s clear what Elon did.
It was a Nazi salute. It was a Nazi salute.
Even if I didn’t want it to be, it was and is.
We’ll never know if it was a troll or not, but given the guy has deeply troubling tendencies and reprehensible political ideology, it doesn’t really matter. The Neo Nazis were *super* excited that he did it.
It was a Nazi salute. It’s self-evident.
Comment by SirSnickety at 24/01/2025 at 12:11 UTC
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Images are very different than actual video of an actual Nazi salute.
Comment by BardaArmy at 24/01/2025 at 22:48 UTC
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it’s literally the most blatant one I’ve ever seen all he needed was the heel click. I’m sure he had a bet with some of his incel buddies he could do it and nothing would happen.
Comment by dr-doom-jr at 24/01/2025 at 09:17 UTC
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It's why these fucks are repeatedly just showing stills instead of a full video such as that of musk doing the full gesture twice.
Comment by andthesunalsosets at 23/01/2025 at 23:29 UTC
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that you’re explaining this means we’ve lost already
Comment by MetaCognitio at 24/01/2025 at 23:18 UTC
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The point is to wear you down with things they know are wrong but you can’t refute.
Comment by No_One_ButMe at 25/01/2025 at 10:21 UTC
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he knows that. this is a distraction to get people to conjecture instead of just calling him a nazi
Comment by Oldie124 at 28/01/2025 at 04:56 UTC
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Then you show them the real video and their like, “well he’s Autistic” or “it’s just a gesture”, how pathetic MAGAt’s have become
Comment by allefromitaly at 24/01/2025 at 07:25 UTC
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Macron
Comment by stirrednotshaken01 at 24/01/2025 at 08:44 UTC
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Elon did a wide open hand and swept it out across his body pointing almost completely to the side of his body
He also did not do a Nazi salute
That’s the point he is making and he is correct