created by HistoryDoesUnfold on 23/01/2025 at 20:37 UTC
6909 upvotes, 199 top-level comments (showing 25)
Comment by ClockOfTheLongNow at 24/01/2025 at 14:32 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
A friendly reminder that the report button is not a super downvote and will not get articles removed if the articles don't break a rule.
I am also deeply tired of this particular dead horse-beating exercise, but the post is fine.
Comment by Mentaldonkey1 at 23/01/2025 at 21:03 UTC*
209 upvotes, 17 direct replies
How their hand got there wasn’t the same. The end result may look bad but the whole action, not the still frame is the worst part.
Comment by SilverMedal4Life at 23/01/2025 at 20:51 UTC
732 upvotes, 24 direct replies
For my money, Elon knows what he's doing. Where's that Jean-Paul Sarte quote again about never doubting that antisemites know how absurd their arguments are?
All I'm saying is, it's very telling that he's doubled down on it, rather than apologize for it. That solidifies his intention for me - if you seriously want to argue that the correct response to ""accidentally"" making a Nazi salute is to start making Nazi puns on the website you bought for $40 billion, you were already going to accept literally any excuse.
Comment by til13 at 23/01/2025 at 22:18 UTC
154 upvotes, 7 direct replies
This is where I use my teacher response, "we're not talking about other's actions right now - we're talking about yours."
This is one of the most common arguments that middle and high school students try to use when they get in trouble.
Using this response cuts through all of the bullshit and focuses on that child's (or multi-billionaire's) choices.
Comment by Hayes4prez at 23/01/2025 at 20:59 UTC
107 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Elon has still refused to call Nazis bad.
Comment by burgercleaner at 23/01/2025 at 21:01 UTC
159 upvotes, 6 direct replies
he not only did the nazi salute twice, he alluded to the 14 words while doing it. it's absurd how the media is handling this.
Comment by Just_Keep_Asking_Why at 23/01/2025 at 21:54 UTC
13 upvotes, 1 direct replies
He knows EXACTLY what he did and he meant it. Look at his face.
That Taylor Swift photo? If you watch the video she was blowing kisses to her crowd of fans.
Elon was just showing he's a Nazi. Twice. On a globally televised stage. At a presidential inauguration. In Germany he'd be in jail by know (that salute is VERY illegal there). Seriously. Back in the Bush or Obama years this WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED.
TRUMP has given the right permission to be disgusting. We all know it. But Musk is over the top with this by a huge margin.
Stop buying Tesla. They're crap build quality anyway and use tech that wasn't properly developed and tested before rolling out to the consumer, leading to many deaths and functional problems.
Abandon Twitter (even more than it already has been abandoned). Ban links from this sub-reddit if not already done so.
Hell, maybe even nationalize SpaceEx as a critical piece of national security infrastructure. (Yeah, not likely in the least and pretty much a bad idea, but damn I'd like to see his face)
Comment by HistoryDoesUnfold at 23/01/2025 at 20:41 UTC
39 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This article gives an analysis of the ongoing controversy regarding Elon Musk performing a fascist salute at a rally
It factchecks his recent attempts at deflection, linking to the source videos. It also gives context to Musk's recent involvement in the far-right and the history significance of the fascist salute.
Comment by LegitimateVirus3 at 23/01/2025 at 21:04 UTC
21 upvotes, 0 direct replies
His grandparents are vintage Nazis, and he is carrying the tiki torch for them.
Comment by feltsandwich at 23/01/2025 at 23:23 UTC
8 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Plausible deniability.
It's engineered. He makes an obvious Nazi salute, but says "my heart goes out to you" at the same time.
Now, he has signaled to his Nazi minions, and they react with glee. Because they are Nazis. They get hard from Nazi salutes.
But the rest of the world gets gaslit. "Nazi salute? Why I was merely greeting my brethren!"
So he gets to have it both ways; the right wing re**rds are smitten, and now there is proof in their minds that the world is against them. They are galvanized.
The rat fucker machine then spreads pictures of people with their arms out to claim hypocrisy (conveniently leaving out the video context).
Comment by bluesquishmallow at 23/01/2025 at 22:12 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This is why he did it in the first place. They are thriving on flipping the script when they know what they intended.
It's the political akin to a bully targeting you, then pressing their palm on your forehead so you can't swing and hit them.
Comment by knownerror at 23/01/2025 at 21:19 UTC
8 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Let's go to the video, shall we? Nobody is throwing out a Nazi salute except Elon.
Comment by markth_wi at 23/01/2025 at 22:03 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
And aside from a small collection of similarly minded degenerates everyone else did it on accident.
The top two definitely meant to do it, the bottom 3 almost certainly meant to do it but might have been under the influence of substances. But in the last 40 years, off the top of my head - maybe a 1/2 dozen people have even fired the neuron that came close to thinking this was a good idea.
Comment by CadaDiaCantoMejor at 23/01/2025 at 23:36 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
We have a word in English for saying something that you know is not true, but you repeat it in the hopes that someone will believe it: lying.
The guy makes freaking Hitler salutes, yet we have to tiptoe around the fact that he is **lying** about it.
I get that they don't want to call a guy who is obviously a Nazi enthusiast a "Nazi" until at least a few concentration camps are built, but surely we can call a liar a liar.
Comment by MisterVS at 24/01/2025 at 00:22 UTC*
5 upvotes, 2 direct replies
He just looks more guilty playing these stupid games. He thought he could get away with it and/or maybe he lost control and shared his true self. It's also insane how hard people are trying to defend him even his public persona is fraudulent free speech absolutist. Hope he burns for this based on his patterns.
Comment by shit_ass_mcfucknuts at 23/01/2025 at 22:02 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
For someone who didn't do something, they sure are trying to make what they didn't do appear to be a normal thing.
Comment by crazybehind at 23/01/2025 at 21:07 UTC
8 upvotes, 0 direct replies
The group of people that feel obligated to find evidence to refute the shit that pours from this ass's mouth... they are playing checkers while Elon is playing thermonuclear war.
Boycott his companies. Sell the stocks. Support his competitors.
Comment by KnochenKotzer666 at 23/01/2025 at 23:33 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I hate the short videos which don’t show the second salute .. the second one makes it even more obvious ..
Comment by mountaindoom at 24/01/2025 at 00:10 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Like I tell the teenagers I teach: I'm not talking about *their* behavior, I'm talking about *yours*.
Comment by Jasperous_Dang at 24/01/2025 at 00:14 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
If only Hitler had social media and FOX News to hide behind.
Comment by Electrical-Sun6267 at 24/01/2025 at 00:29 UTC
3 upvotes, 1 direct replies
But did he condemn Nazis?
Comment by 4PumpDaddy at 24/01/2025 at 05:47 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
He made a face like something went up his butt and he full out seig heiled
Comment by mattboy at 24/01/2025 at 07:36 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Man who has “large graveyard filled with my enemies,” calls rescue divers “pedos,” threatens war with “fuck yourself in the face” comment, has his mother go on the news to say Elon should be called “Genius of the world,” does a nazi salute (twice) in front of a cheering crowd and now wants a pass because it was a Roman salute, autism, and now here’s some photos that imply others may have done it.
At any point, this stable genius and therefore justified and deserving billionaire could have learned grace and compassion AND shined that light into the world. Yet here we are watching him dig another hole in the graveyard.
Comment by Puddle_Palooza at 24/01/2025 at 11:37 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
“Misleading” in this case should read malicious disinformation.
Elon definitely did a nazi salute, now he’s lying and trying to hurt others’ reputation so he doesn’t look so bad. Can’t he be sued for libel?
Comment by minutedryclock at 24/01/2025 at 11:39 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
He is a parasite. Parasites feed on projecting. Remember that.