Comment by Outsider-Trading on 19/01/2025 at 14:11 UTC

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View submission: Curtis Yarvin Says Democracy Is Done. Powerful Conservatives Are Listening.

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We've just had nearly 20 years of bureaucratic anti-meritocratic "progressive" authoritarianism and the results have been absolute garbage.

The authoritarian left have shown they can't make "a great society that works for everyone" either, hence the demand for something different.

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Comment by UnableHuckleberry143 at 19/01/2025 at 14:22 UTC

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nearly 20 years of progressivism

LOL. i wish

Comment by HitandRyan at 19/01/2025 at 14:56 UTC

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Try 40 years of neoliberalism and trickle down economics.

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Comment by Razgriz01 at 19/01/2025 at 18:06 UTC

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The authoritarian left have shown they can't make "a great society that works for everyone" either, hence the demand for something different.

I'm sorry, the who? We don't have an authoritarian left party in the US, or really a left party at all.

Comment by StonkSalty at 19/01/2025 at 19:08 UTC

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Explain how Yarvin's ideal society would help everyone. Are you chomping at the bit to put ankle trackers on the homeless or what?

Comment by BioSemantics at 19/01/2025 at 18:53 UTC*

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Obama and most of the Dem party are the MOST classic examples of bullshit meritocratic neoliberal nonsense anyone could imagine. Unless you think meritocracy is just that merit should go to the richest person? I mean like Obama was a fucking constitutional law scholar, you don't get less meritocratic than that. I don't understand your argument. What authoritarian left? Who on the left has even been in power? This is like some classic Yarvin nonsense. He says the exactly opposite what is true, as a shitty contrarian and then pretends its profound. The man is an out-right moron.

Comment by creesto at 19/01/2025 at 15:12 UTC

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Garbage? Thy booming markets, tamed inflation, low unemployment, rising wages... which of those do you hate? You sound like an angry racist in flyover country with fascist leanings and a shite earning potential

Comment by [deleted] at 19/01/2025 at 16:20 UTC

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Comment by francis2559 at 19/01/2025 at 16:08 UTC

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Sometimes different is worse.

Comment by Historical_Station19 at 19/01/2025 at 19:21 UTC

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Lmao bro is gonna pretend republicans haven't been in charge half the time over the last 20 years.

Comment by BenjaminHamnett at 19/01/2025 at 19:44 UTC

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People are living better than ever by almost every metric

Conservative ideology is just the progressive ideals that proved themselves by standing the test of time. Most get shaken out and debunked, like communism. We have now a brand of reactionaryism that would pull back even things that have proven themselves because people feel pressured from those less fortunate getting too much dignity and opportunity. The rise of the least well off feels like a loss of RELATIVE wealth to other lower and lower middle class even as their living standards are rising too

Comment by freakwent at 20/01/2025 at 10:10 UTC

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We've just had nearly 20 years of bureaucratic anti-meritocratic "progressive" authoritarianism and the results have been absolute garbage.

Why is everyone on reddit so vague? Are you referring to the beaurocracy that allowed torture in the war on terror or the restrictions that stopped it? The anti-meritocratic concepts of Elon and Bezos being billionaires or those of assisting black folk into university places? The progressive ideals of legalising bum sex, legalising more guns or legalising weed? The authoritarianism of HOA control, union power on work sites or the secret service visits to people who write Internet essays about assassinations?

The authoritarian left

There isn't one. They talk alot and write a lot and make a bunch of rules but nobody is getting jailed by some left-wing power base in the USA because there isn't one, you just have one that's slightly less right than the other one.

A left-wing authoritarian government is one in which all, or almost all, print and broadcast media is entirely government controlled.

A left-wing authoritarian government is one in which all, or almost all, large, powerful or strategically relevant companies are government controlled.

So what are the names of the left-wing authoritarians who restrict your rights in the USA?

Comment by JimBeam823 at 19/01/2025 at 15:12 UTC

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You’re going to get downvoted, but your not wrong.

Dissatisfaction with the bureaucracy is what is driving the push for a strongman to do away with it.

There is a good chance the people will get what they want, but historically, this has always ended badly.