created by Prescient-Visions on 19/01/2025 at 06:15 UTC
1891 upvotes, 126 top-level comments (showing 25)
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Comment by mein_liebchen at 19/01/2025 at 07:18 UTC
596 upvotes, 26 direct replies
What an absolute lunatic. His interview responses are like those of a 15 year old kid who has just discovered Ayn Rand.
Comment by DayGlowBeautiful at 19/01/2025 at 06:48 UTC
241 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Behind the Bastards did a great (horrifying) two part podcast on Yarvin last fall.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/behind-the-bastards/id1373812661?i=1000669798693
Comment by Loggerdon at 19/01/2025 at 06:23 UTC
157 upvotes, 4 direct replies
Jesus Christ their plan seems to be working.
Comment by Prescient-Visions at 19/01/2025 at 06:17 UTC
191 upvotes, 7 direct replies
Submission Statement:
This article is an interview with Curtis Yarvin.
Curtis Yarvin introduced the Dark Enlightenment philosophy. A belief that democracy is failed and advocates for a technomonarchy or GovCorp city-states run by tech oligarchs such as Musk and Thiel.
They believe to implement this system, a crisis or series of crises are necessary to dismantle democracy. Then through the lens of the mimetic theory designate a scapegoat or catalyst so the masses will unknowingly embrace this draconian nightmare.
Thiel is a huge proponent of the theory, who groomed JD Vance to VP position. The tech oligarchs are in the halls of power, their plan unfolding begins January 20.
Comment by Tazling at 19/01/2025 at 09:01 UTC
56 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Curtis Yarvin can go take a long walk off a short pier.
An unhinged little man, a resentful mediocrity. Like many "advisors" and "philosophers" throughout history who have provided the pseudo-intellectual blather that's used to justify anything from repression to atrocity.
Comment by Prescient-Visions at 19/01/2025 at 06:23 UTC
40 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Wikipedia articles for more information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment?wprov=sfti1#
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin?wprov=sfti1#
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimetic_theory?wprov=sfti1#
Comment by burgercleaner at 19/01/2025 at 06:58 UTC
46 upvotes, 0 direct replies
hopefully people start figuring out how dumb this guy actually is. the shit about apple being a monarchy and the chotiner-esque getting boxed in about his violent, racist ends were pretty good.
Comment by thehollowman84 at 19/01/2025 at 09:42 UTC
48 upvotes, 1 direct replies
The real message of 1984 wasn't about cameras being everywhere.
It was about an intellectual middle class being dominated and destroyed by powerful elites that have complete control of the working class.
Because that's what happens under authoritarians. And it's what will happen after Trump.
Him winning again has made people realise they can go further than they ever imagined.
Comment by boofcakin171 at 19/01/2025 at 08:19 UTC
33 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Pretty cool that they keep platforming these fuckers.
Comment by zeprfrew at 19/01/2025 at 09:33 UTC
10 upvotes, 0 direct replies
No matter how much he tries to dress it up in abstract, intellectual sounding language it's just old fashioned white supremacy warmed over again.
Comment by autocol at 19/01/2025 at 11:37 UTC
27 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Curtis Yarvin is just a gigantic, self absorbed dickhead. My god he's absolutely insufferable. Listening to him talk for more than fifteen seconds causes a physical sensation of discomfort in my body, he's that bad.
Comment by randytankard at 19/01/2025 at 07:35 UTC
56 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Not a bad interview as far as these things go, Marchese did directly challenge Yarvin and as much as I reject Yarvin and his world view he did not get worked up about it so between them the interview covered a decent amount of ground.
Yarvin plays fast and loose with history and it's interpretation and his definitions are pretty weird. Sometimes he asks the right questions or makes decent points but he's inconsistent ( a few times in this interview he got away with it) but worst of all - all of it comes from a fundamentally very dark place.
Yarvin is what passes for the current intellectual justification for authoritarianism and furthering the plutocracy hence why so many of his fans are the worst humans you can think of.
Comment by woodchip76 at 19/01/2025 at 10:04 UTC
14 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Strikes me as a pseudo historian with pseudo theories who will greatly benefit and support the incoming administration. Just like last time get ready for a wave of unqualified people being pointed to for justification.
Comment by leoyvr at 19/01/2025 at 13:07 UTC
14 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I hope people will start waking up.
Robert Reich: The biggest divide in America today is not between “right” and “left,” or between Republicans and Democrats. It’s between democracy and oligarchy. The old labels — “right” and “left” — prevent most people from noticing they’re being shafted.
The way to overcome oligarchy is for the rest of us to join together and win America back, as we did in response to the oligarchy that dominated America’s last Gilded Age.
https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the-american-oligarchy-is-out-of
Comment by hammedhaaret at 19/01/2025 at 09:20 UTC
15 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Listening to this in podcast form. What the hell is this spineless interviewer doing? Has he done no preparation for it?
There is no pushback on these crazy fucking ideas. At most a complaint that he's sidestepping some questions?!? Why does he not engage to core ideas and question that dictatorship is better, "more effective" than democracy?
Only on historical accuracy does interviewer get into specifics and in such emotional way that this fucking madman comes off as the calmer part.
Comment by wazoox at 19/01/2025 at 09:36 UTC
6 upvotes, 0 direct replies
This guy sounds like some reincarnation of Oswald Spengler. Hardly a good omen if you ask me...
Comment by Feisty_Bee9175 at 19/01/2025 at 12:50 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
So he believes we should have a "monarchy rule" in the US and go back to a dictatorship with a CEO (polite term for dictator) ruling the country, and that ALL government institutions should be killed. And apparently, Trump and his buddies believe the same thing. Got it. What an idiot.
Comment by bowsmountainer at 19/01/2025 at 08:20 UTC
22 upvotes, 2 direct replies
It’s scary that the NY Times gave Curtis Yarvin a platform like this to talk about ending democracy, and never questioning this argument at all. They never once pointed out that throughout all of history, people suffer the most under the political system that Yarvin is advocating.
Comment by armedgorillas at 19/01/2025 at 11:57 UTC
7 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Has anyone here been following Joshua Citarella's podcast Doomscroll? He follows youth who have been radicalized on the Internet into fringe political beliefs like Neomonarchism. The idea that society should or (already is run) by unelected dictators is spreading, including to proponents like the VP or opponents like the Adjuster.
Comment by Punchcard at 19/01/2025 at 15:36 UTC
5 upvotes, 2 direct replies
None of these assholes ever think they are going to be a serf. “We need to overturn everything because democracy doesn’t work. This new social order I’ve devised will somehow result in me being at or near the top. I didn’t mean it to be that way but I’ve run the numbers and that’s just the way it works out.” *shrug*
Comment by TaxLawKingGA at 20/01/2025 at 00:03 UTC
3 upvotes, 0 direct replies
So he is a fascist. Thanks for the confirmation. I could have saved myself and everyone 10 minutes other lives.
Comment by SunflaresAteMyLunch at 20/01/2025 at 00:03 UTC
5 upvotes, 0 direct replies
If you're an American and you want to overthrow the established democratic presidential system, are you really a conservative. Conservatives, from what I've been taught, want to maintain the traditional order and established institutions and move extremely slowly when it comes to change, this goof is not that...
Comment by fart_huffington at 20/01/2025 at 00:34 UTC
2 upvotes, 0 direct replies
When you buy into the idea that democracy is over maybe it's no longer accurate to call you a conservative?
Comment by TheAmbiguity at 20/01/2025 at 01:08 UTC
4 upvotes, 1 direct replies
This interview was insane to listen to. I felt horrible even just explaining his takes to someone else.