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I met someone from Vietman who's family immigrated maybe a decade ago. Apparently the existing Vietnamese community was very cold towards them, and considers all newcomers to be dirty communists or something. Lol. Goes to show that petty tribalism knows no bounds.
Comment by hirst at 28/11/2024 at 23:04 UTC*
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Yeah the original wave of Vietnamese in the US are mostly south Vietnamese who came over as refugees during the vietnam war. It’s why it’s common in our restaurants to have hoisin sauce but if you go to Berlin for example, it’s uncommon, whose migrants tend to be north Vietnamese (hoisin in pho is a southern Vietnamese thing)
Comment by caveatlector73 at 28/11/2024 at 21:03 UTC
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Very true. Recent immigrants are vilified no matter who got there first or what country you are talking about. Which as you note is not terribly reasonable since we are all immigrants.
Comment by thegooseass at 29/11/2024 at 01:33 UTC
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The younger generation does tend to have a more favorable view of communism than the first wave of vietnamese refugees does so I don’t think this is just petty tribalism.
I’m not saying they’re “dirty communists” but there is a difference because anyone under ~45 never knew the pre-communist Vietnam, so they aren’t as anti-communist.
Also, people from the north/central tend to be less anti-communist than people from the south (south vietnam was aligned with america in the war; their army was often trained by america’s).
(In-laws are first wave Viet refugees)
Comment by Jahobes at 29/11/2024 at 02:45 UTC
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Not defending that sentiment. But the first wave of Vietnamese were literally south Vietnamese who never lived under communism.
The current immigrants have spent a generation under communism.
Comment by nycdiveshack at 28/11/2024 at 23:10 UTC
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It’s a big deal in the Indian community, they all feel this way and vote Trump. Especially here in New York City
Comment by ryegye24 at 29/11/2024 at 01:44 UTC
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Nothing more American than pulling the ladder up after yourself
Comment by reuelcypher at 29/11/2024 at 03:52 UTC
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A century ago it was the nouveau riche who were the villains in a similar idiom.
Comment by sakka83 at 29/11/2024 at 07:43 UTC
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The good old Mayflower effect
Comment by aridcool at 29/11/2024 at 13:57 UTC
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Is there anything to what is mentioned in the article about resentment caused by people who immigrated legally or illegally previously (or their US born children) struggling to get benefits while illegal immigrants ended up getting them more easily? I could believe that though I would also say that on balance a new illegal immigrant is still going to have a more difficult time.
Comment by RepostTony at 29/11/2024 at 16:51 UTC
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I know a lot of Vietnamese folks who love Trump. Like a lot.
Comment by yolotheunwisewolf at 29/11/2024 at 19:08 UTC
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It’s fascinating seeing how people understand mentally that people are stronger together than separate but we fight with each other versus banding together.
Maybe a Bugs Life isn’t reality and unions of the day can’t come back
Comment by Funky_Smurf at 29/11/2024 at 19:35 UTC
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Because that's how they see the country that they fled on refugee boats in the 70s
Comment by Searchlights at 29/11/2024 at 21:01 UTC
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Every new group of Americans wants to pull up the ladder behind them.
Comment by [deleted] at 29/11/2024 at 22:03 UTC
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I mean… they’re not wrong.
Comment by xcbyeti at 29/11/2024 at 22:14 UTC
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This. Everyone thinks JUST whitey is racist….not true.
Comment by BigTitsanBigDicks at 30/11/2024 at 06:12 UTC
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Goes to show that petty tribalism knows no bounds.
You know its very racist of you to assume otherwise. Those people are as human as anyone, and just as capable of prejudice.
You think what, everyone in the same race are best friends? Does that make any sense?
Comment by bktan6 at 01/12/2024 at 18:15 UTC
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As a Vietnamese American, I’m like — get in here!
I literally cannot fathom it being any other way. I want to see more of my people succeed. The ones that make it here are lucky; 90% of my entire family is in South Vietnam still.
Comment by Yzerman19_ at 11/12/2024 at 11:52 UTC
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How different is that from people moving to Minnesota and finding out that “Minnesota nice” is kind of fake, they’ve already got established social groups, and it’s hard to break into those?