Immigrants’ Resentment Over New Arrivals Helped Boost Trump’s Popularity With Latino Voters

https://www.propublica.org/article/immigration-latino-trump-election-resentment-asylum

created by caveatlector73 on 28/11/2024 at 19:55 UTC

2447 upvotes, 118 top-level comments (showing 25)

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Comment by JemorilletheExile at 28/11/2024 at 21:37 UTC

151 upvotes, 12 direct replies

[Sergio Garza Castillo] hopes Trump seizes on the opportunity to expand support from Latino voters by creating a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who’ve been here for years.

Yeah I'm sure Trump will get right on that

Comment by Doct0rStabby at 28/11/2024 at 20:52 UTC

292 upvotes, 18 direct replies

I met someone from Vietman who's family immigrated maybe a decade ago. Apparently the existing Vietnamese community was very cold towards them, and considers all newcomers to be dirty communists or something. Lol. Goes to show that petty tribalism knows no bounds.

Comment by [deleted] at 28/11/2024 at 23:13 UTC

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Comment by caveatlector73 at 28/11/2024 at 20:05 UTC

128 upvotes, 9 direct replies

Many immigrants in the US thought Trump was referring to new illegal immigrants when he spoke of criminals and rapists pouring over the border. Law abiding, as most immigrants are so they won't be deported, they perhaps mistakenly assumed only the so-labelled criminal "newcomers" would be deported.

In the article, Rosa - who herself is an illegal immigrant - has children who voted for Trump out of anger about what they saw as preferential and exclusionary treatment for newer illegal immigrants. Trump however, has also floated plans to roll back her children's citizenship as well. Whether his policies if taken to their full state effect will affect his popularity with a latino population envious of what others have is not yet known.

It should probably be noted that Trump's wife Melania is an immigrant as is Vance's wife's parents. The same is true for Musk. Trump is the child of immigrants. While it could be argued that they are "legal" immigrants it is interesting.

It does however reveal some of the inequities that comprehensive immigration reform could address.

Comment by nysecret at 28/11/2024 at 22:20 UTC

25 upvotes, 4 direct replies

the frustrating reality is is that if the rights draconian deportation plans are halted it’ll be either by democratic opposition (to whatever extent is even possible) or by republican ineptitude—in either case immigrants who voted against their own best interests may be spared and their takeaway will be that Trump/Republicans actually had no intent to deport them or their loved ones and/or the people claiming that they did where lying about how aggressive/destructive MAGA really is.

Comment by Aquiloco83 at 28/11/2024 at 20:18 UTC

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My family immigrated here on the back of the 86 amnesty given by GOP legend Reagan lol. I've never once felt resentment towards anyone coming here since then. Then again I need to stop thinking other humans have thoughts that go beyond thier fucking noses.

Comment by FUCKYOUINYOURFACE at 29/11/2024 at 12:22 UTC

9 upvotes, 1 direct replies

I got into an argument with an Uber immigrant driver from the Middle East. He loves Trump and loves the DOGE concept and how it’s going to get rid of government waste for things like trans research etc.

I straight up looked at him and said, “my racist family voted for Trump because they want him to deport people like you. I didn’t because I think that’s wrong. You better figure out what side you’re on or you won’t be here much longer.”

He got really quiet after that. People are fucking stupid.

Comment by Visual_Fig9663 at 29/11/2024 at 11:29 UTC

8 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Rosa said she is glad her children voted for Trump. She’s not too worried about deportation, although she asked to be identified solely by her first name to reduce the risk. She believes Trump wants to deport criminals, not people like her who crossed the border undetected in the 1990s but haven’t gotten in trouble with the law. “They know who has been behaving well and who hasn’t been,” she said.

This would be funny if it wasn't so depressing.

Comment by felixthecat15 at 28/11/2024 at 21:10 UTC

16 upvotes, 2 direct replies

This is 100 percent true. My mother immigrated here in the late 80s and has said the same thing. She hates that people are getting “a free pass” to come here when she struggled for years to even just get a citizenship. It’s the ultimate pulling the ladder up on your way to the top. Also the older generation of Latino tend to be homophobic and racist.

Comment by enunymous at 28/11/2024 at 20:15 UTC

24 upvotes, 1 direct replies

None of these immigrants understand that the animus is directed at them as well. They just don't recognize it

Comment by DocFossil at 28/11/2024 at 21:08 UTC

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Jeez people - READ THE ARTICLE. It’s not what you assume.

Comment by el_pinata at 28/11/2024 at 19:58 UTC

102 upvotes, 9 direct replies

"Fuck you got mine" is the American disease

Comment by ProfessionalCreme119 at 28/11/2024 at 20:40 UTC*

40 upvotes, 7 direct replies

The way one of my coworkers explained it to me was that 20 years ago when he brought his family up here he did so so his kids wouldn't have to live their lives under the cartels. Work wasn't a problem for him. It was just a lifestyle choice.

He said when they came in it was pretty strict. They had to go through a lot of hoops to get approval. But that was okay because they knew the situation down there. The vetting process was necessary.

Now he is confused why it's easier to pass those checks even though the situation down there is much much worse. That really doesn't make sense to him.

He didn't vote for trump. He was just speaking from personal experience as to why he can understand so many people from back home went for Trump.

Comment by JT9960 at 28/11/2024 at 20:54 UTC

7 upvotes, 1 direct replies

What a pathetic bunch of people

Comment by secret_aardvark_420 at 29/11/2024 at 04:47 UTC

5 upvotes, 2 direct replies

So many of the most vehement anti-immigrant people are immigrants themselves or 1st gen. If this surprises you then you probably hang out with too many white people.

Comment by AssesOverEasy at 29/11/2024 at 10:47 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Nobody hates immigrants more than other immigrants who got there earlier

Comment by 38507390572 at 29/11/2024 at 15:08 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Ladder pullers just like Christians that get abortions because THEIR ABORTION is the exception.

Comment by PaulDecember at 29/11/2024 at 15:53 UTC

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People here are overcomplicating the issue. I work in a predominantly Mexican-American neighborhood in Chicago, where modest homes line the streets, each with a pickup truck or SUV parked out front. The residents here have earned their slice of the American Dream through hard work in local factories. Bringing in workers willing to take those same jobs for significantly lower wages threatens to undermine everything they’ve worked so hard to achieve.

Comment by Count_Bacon at 28/11/2024 at 20:40 UTC

5 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Am I had person that i can't wait for a lot of these trump voters to get deported?

Comment by [deleted] at 29/11/2024 at 04:33 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

New arrivals or illegal arrivals?

Comment by [deleted] at 29/11/2024 at 04:52 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

More like immigrants pissed off at people conflating legal and illegal immigration.

Comment by TJames6210 at 29/11/2024 at 07:34 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

The American way. Arrive and shut the door behind you.

Comment by UseforNoName71 at 29/11/2024 at 13:42 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Two Mexican women in White water, Wisconsin resentful at asylum seekers because they have lived here illegally for 30 years and did not get preferential treatment like new arrivals?!! They couldn’t vote but their boys could so they voted for Trump?

The irony if those women get deported back to Mexico.

Comment by Matthew-_-Black at 29/11/2024 at 15:16 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

You can't blame them for being selfish and anti-social

They're just integrating into the local culture

Comment by Sad_Yam_1330 at 29/11/2024 at 17:02 UTC

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Legal immigrants don't want the problems they fled to follow them here.