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So, people identifying themselves despite what society says they are is sexism? Furthermore, *you* introduced the notion that transgender people are only transgender to fall into the stereotypes associated with the opposite sex. I challenged that notion lightly but honestly I don’t think I made enough of a point with it. There are butch trans women and feminine trans men all the time. Are they still being sexist by identifying as transgender? Furthermore, if we advocate for people identifying as they wish freely within or outside of the gender binary that has been established, then how can transgender advocates be compared to sexist conservatives who do, by definition, the opposite, by telling people they have to follow the stereotypes set by society?
Even beyond that, you stated if you raised your child, you would raise them without gendering and beyond that, without raising them to be *not* trans. So what if the child happens to be trans regardless? Again, your assumption here is trans people’s existence is defined by social stereotypes of sex, and I refuse to accept that notion because of my lived experience with transgender people and as one myself.
Comment by Kadajko at 14/01/2025 at 10:03 UTC*
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So, people identifying themselves despite what society says they are is sexism?
Yes.
Furthermore, *you* introduced the notion that transgender people are only transgender to fall into the stereotypes associated with the opposite sex.
No. I've addressed that in my reply before the previous one.
Conservatives say that men and women are different and you AGREE. Conservatives say that men and women should behave differently and you AGREE, only the difference is that conservatives think men and women should, for example, dress a certain way, men should be masculine and women should be feminine, while you think that men and women should identify a certain way. But you still draw a distinction. Gender in and of itself is sexist, because there is no difference between men and women, they are not ''other''. And when you say that you identify as X and not Y, it follows that you believe X and Y are two distinct things. People who identify outside of the X/Y binary still acknowledge the X/Y binary existence, which is also sexist.
You see you say:
I was “born a man”, and everything about my experience refused to accept that. Thus, I am a transgender woman.
You say that as IF being born a woman would be different, but it wouldn't be different it would be exactly the same. Men and women are not different.
You are currently treated differently by society due to sexism, but you wanted to make a point that being trans is not about gender stereotypes and roles of society, so then how you are treated by society DUE to those sexist stereotypes and roles is also mute.
Even beyond that, you stated if you raised your child, you would raise them without gendering and beyond that, without raising them to be *not* trans. So what if the child happens to be trans regardless?
How can a someone be trans without having a gender?