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Sure, but you haven't actually answered the questions I have. And physical things and hormones are your sex, not your gender.
Can you define what makes any gender?
For instance, what does male mean when you remove any relation to physical sex?
You're dancing around the question, like everyone I ask. It's a direct question, not "tell me how you feel about yourself", or "define the concept of gender".
Just tell me what makes something male, or what makes something female, etc.
Apologies if this sounds rude - it's just that people end up dancing around this question a lot, and a few have acknowledged that they don't know how to answer it. I have yet to have anyone define "female" without relating things that are based around stereotypes (such as ways or thinking or enjoying certain things) or resorting to reference to physical attributes.
Comment by TankieErik at 13/01/2025 at 00:36 UTC
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"And physical things and hormones are your sex, not your gender." I mean more so the hormones that you are predesposed to react positively towards. For example, I had a sex change to male and respond positively to higher levels of testosterone - I feel much better, my health is better, I feel for lack of better words a sense of correctness and wholeness that I did not prior to the TRT. My gender is the sex that I feel right in. Someone who is cis female or trans female may react in the complete oposite way to those same hormones so there is some difference between us.
"Can you define what makes any gender? For instance, what does male mean when you remove any relation to physical sex?" I don't think you need to remove a relation to physical sex, because at least for me, it is connected to physical sex - either intense rejection/ discomfort towards certain sex characteristics or alignment with others. People's gender can be different than their assigned sex hense reassignement. If you want to categorise a person's sex alignment/ innate sense of what parts they should or desire to have as sex rather than gender I'm fine with that as long as we acknowledge that it is a real thing. I get worked up (idk if that's the phrase) about this debate because when people say that for example a trans woman's gender is female, and then they say gender isn't real, it's like theyre saying her femaleness is not. I do think there is something innate that makes people feel right with certain characteristics because this is what I have experienced, and it important for me that people not deny this innate maleness or femaleness (or the inclintations towards them) that exist within transioning people.
"You're dancing around the question" I don't think I am, because for myself, I have a very straightforward answer. It is the physical traits and hormones that I am inherintly aligned with. It has nothing to do with how I dress or how I talk or what things I played with. There are cisgender men who feel unwell when they have low testosterone, something that is also experienced by many transgender and transsexual men. That is because we are both male. However I do not think I can say that this is the answer for all people - hense I've been saying "many" instead of "all" - because I don't think I have a right to speak on everyone's behalf, but this is the answer for me and I think that counts for something.
"Just tell me what makes something male, or what makes something female, etc." whilst I cannot say for certainty that for all people it is the things I listed above, but for me, it's what I said.
I do not mean to deny the existance of people who are different from me or who have a different experience with gender or sex. I am simply trying to argue the case for my own exprience, and how im worried this general conversation may lead to people's views on my own healthcare. I'm can go more over it and I'm sorry if I came across as rude.