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View submission: Do non-binary identities reenforce gender stereotypes?
What the fuck is “internal sense of gender”? It sounds like a made up expression where we submit to full subjectivity and completely abandon any shred of logical reasoning.
The fact is that genders are a social construct, and the argument that your “internal sense of gender” doesn’t align with one or another social norm is worthless. Cool, it doesn’t. It’s fake anyway. It’s a social construct.
I’m a man. I don’t need to express “masculinity”, even though I do stereotypically “masculine” things like competing in combat sports and lifting weights. That has nothing to do with me being a man. I am a HUMAN. Everything associated with gender is extrinsic. I have absolutely zero tie to my “gender” when it comes to my identity. I am who I am regardless and my gender doesn’t dictate who I am. It only plays a role in the reality I live in society… except, again, that’s extrinsic. No “internal sense” bullshit.
Comment by snatch_tovarish at 12/01/2025 at 19:16 UTC
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It's actually pretty faulty logic to claim that social constructs or subjective experiences have no effect on reality, or that simply because you've claimed that they don't exist, they don't interact with each other. Just going to throw that out there if we're attacking people's ability to think logically.
Pretty good example is that race is a social construct. Somebody who has been racialized is having a subjective racial experience. People who are racializing them are also having a subjective racial experience. Extremists who attack people of color for the color of their skin are actualizing the social construct into something that affects the real world.
These things absolutely are real despite being subjective and constructed.
Comment by neverendingplush93 at 13/01/2025 at 07:28 UTC
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Well said , I agree. I'm a man. But it isn't a conscious effort to be one. Every action I take isn't decided by some choice to reinforce my gender identity. When I take a piss ,and see my dick, or when I fuck my gf. I'm not consciously deliberately making masculine choices, I'm just simply a man.
What these crazy people don't realise is if I'm hypothetically a woman, and I feel like a "man" and begin dressing like a "man" I'm in fact reinforcing traditional concepts of gender.
Comment by redroserequiems at 12/01/2025 at 21:10 UTC
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Gender isn't logical. A lot in life isn't. If life was coldly logical, we wouldn't be in an economic crisis and things like genocides wouldn't happen the way they do.
We also wouldn't have basic human compassion.
I am nonbinary because I feel no attachment to any sense of gender. I am fairly girly and AFAB. I do not feel like woman fits me, nor does man.
Comment by Existing-Society-172 at 12/01/2025 at 21:41 UTC
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Honey, just because YOU don't have any ties to your gender, doesn't mean that other don't either. When you think about yourself, you might not see a gender, and that's great as long as you are happy! But it is utter bullshit to put others down and say that they are wrong for having a sense of gender.