Comment by anti_level on 12/01/2025 at 15:13 UTC

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View submission: Do non-binary identities reenforce gender stereotypes?

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You speak with way too much authority for someone with no source for any of your quantitative, incorrect claims, and your unnecessary antagonism reveals your bias. You are completely wrong about the history of understanding of race and gender as social concepts, you make (wrong) inferences about the actions of trans people as ‘rebellions’, and you dismiss the concept of nonbinary people as part of a ‘labeling frenzy’.

I think you are using a smug, base intellectualism as cover for your ignorance (at best) or bigotry (at worse) and it reveals that you clearly get your ‘information’ about trans people from YouTube videos and not from an honest understanding of the academic and scientific basis for the study of the social phenomenon of trans people. I think it’s nasty to come into a thread where someone is ostensibly asking honest questions and representing yourself as someone who understands sociology and social history when in reality your goal is clearly to pick fights and push an anti intellectual, ahistorical view of a complex social and biological concept.

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Comment by shivux at 13/01/2025 at 06:31 UTC

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Our present concepts of gender **are** relatively recent developments (though that’s no reason to think the “innate gender identity” some people are positing *can’t* exist).

Comment by poli_trial at 12/01/2025 at 19:56 UTC

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Your ad hominem argument is not well received, though I'm sure you didn't come with the intention of actually engaging ideas of people you disagree with either. The strategy here is to bring forward holier than thou disapproval to try to shut down argument rather than engage with it and that's plain dishonest.

In the end, "honest understanding of the academic and scientific basis for the study of the social phenomenon" is based upon the body of knowledge and literature created by humans. It is meant to be critiqued or otherwise we wouldn't ever move forward as a society. The fact that you think it's "nasty" reveals your own biases about how we should engage with ideas rather than about the ideas themselves.