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View submission: /r/IAmA set to private over mod firing
I don't understand why the Jesse Jackson AMA would be blamed on Victoria? But some shit had to have gone down to justify Victoria getting fired with no warning.
Edit: After kn0thing's response[1], I'm a little worried we won't ever find out why she was fired. Hopefully /u/kn0thing will go into a little more detail somewhere visible now that the thread has been locked.
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp
Comment by lurker093287h at 02/07/2015 at 19:07 UTC*
334 upvotes, 6 direct replies
Yeah that was maybe not even in the top 5 most disastrous ama's, it doesn't seem on the face of it that there was anything she could've done about that and don't people usually work through a period after they're leaving or have an announcement at least. This looks weird as hell and karmanaht seems genuinely hurt aswell.
Has reddit 'let go' other high profile employees lately?
Edit: somebody on voat (yeah I know) says
I can confirm that the guests were not given a heads-up about this either. Talked to Paul Elio last night and everything seemed golden for the AMA today. This seems to have come out of nowhere.
and karmanaut says
It's not a matter of brinksmanship, it's that we honestly can't function the same way without Victoria. They knocked down a load-bearing wall in the House of /r/IAmA
What is going on here?
Comment by techsupport_rekall at 02/07/2015 at 18:52 UTC
192 upvotes, 5 direct replies
Because sometimes terrible decisions are made without things making sense; in one version you might designate a scapegoat that's done nothing but be loyal.
I do *not* know that this is what happened here, but I've heard of stupider things happening.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 19:09 UTC
130 upvotes, 12 direct replies
Here is my theory, take it or leave it. Victoria was responding to questions that Jackon never wanted to answer thus making them potentially libellous. Legal action was threatened by Jackson and Victoria was fired for the error.
Comment by CantaloupeCamper at 02/07/2015 at 19:17 UTC
34 upvotes, 0 direct replies
It would seem like a very reddit kind thing to suddenly act on the fact that they had a bunch of racists on the site .... like they just discovered it. And do so by fumbling around and doing something stupid....
For the record, I've no clue if that is the case.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 20:16 UTC*
6 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Come on /u/kn0thing, pull a yishan and air all the dirty laundry!
Comment by Ph0X at 02/07/2015 at 19:06 UTC
56 upvotes, 4 direct replies
So much for "transparency is really important to us", reddit.
Comment by CFGX at 02/07/2015 at 20:12 UTC
6 upvotes, 1 direct replies
I'll throw out a conspiracy theory for the hell of it:
/u/karmanaut mentioned that Victoria policed AMAs so they were done by the actual subjects and not agents. /u/kn0thing specifically mentions how upcoming AMA subjects are excited about doing them "without assistance"
Tinfoil: Reddit wants to reduce the chances of AMAs derailing by having them done entirely by PR people.
Comment by Firadin at 02/07/2015 at 20:56 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Someone want to Out of the Loop me on the Jesse Jackson AMA?
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 21:03 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I'm a little worried we won't ever find out why she was fired.
Which, you know, in the grand scheme of things is probably the way to go. It would be super shitty for a company to broadcast why they fired an employee to literally millions of people except in rare circumstances (e.g. "the guy who replaced Jon Stewart's face with a butt in last night's broadcast has been let go.")
Comment by butyourenice at 02/07/2015 at 21:30 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I just came from another three but the Jesse Jackson thing makes no sense to me. There have definitely been FAR more disastrous AMAs with far more relevant people (not just race baiting demagogues YEAH I FUCKING SAID IT, JUST TRY AND FIRE ME). Why would THIS incident be the thing that pushed Victoria out?
RIP in piece chooter.
Comment by HenkieVV at 02/07/2015 at 22:26 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
After kn0thing's response[1] , I'm a little worried we won't ever find out why she was fired.
We probably won't. It's a common courtesy that when you fire somebody, you don't publicly comment on the reasons. It happens in exceptional cases[1], but I suspect Victoria is smarter than that.
Comment by quinn_drummer at 02/07/2015 at 22:36 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
can someone TL;DR the Jesse Jackson AMA for me. I've completely missed what went on there
Comment by cdcformatc at 02/07/2015 at 22:51 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I am going to guess (occam's razor) and just say they didn't think they needed her. It sounds like the admin team had a contingency plan in place for when they let her go, where existing employees would take on her responsibilities.
r/IAMA thrived before her and will thrive after
They don't seem like they are looking to replace her, so it doesn't seem like she did anything explicitly wrong.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 23:36 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I don't understand why the Jesse Jackson AMA would be blamed on Victoria?
Jackson has been known to threaten to protest, denounce, and otherwise harass companies he dislikes. He's a proud old man - if he thought that the AMA made him look stupid he might just have called Reddit up and said "fire her".
If that is what happened, they would have given her a severance package which required her to not to discuss it. So we may never know for sure.
Comment by PM_ME_UR_JUGZ at 02/07/2015 at 23:57 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Ha! /u/kn0thing being visable/ transparent? Take a look at the responses they give. Always the vaguest nonsense.
Comment by The_Dalek_Emperor at 03/07/2015 at 00:06 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
What happened at the Jesse Jackson AMA?
Comment by TheHarpyEagle at 03/07/2015 at 00:21 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Oh my god, it's Conspiracy Grumps all over again.
Comment by I_want_hard_work at 03/07/2015 at 00:22 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Hopefully /u/kn0thing will go into a little more detail somewhere visible now that the thread has been locked.
Nope. Wouldn't bet on it. I wonder if they gave Victoria severence package in exchange for silence too.
Comment by BigTimStrange at 03/07/2015 at 01:39 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I don't understand why the Jesse Jackson AMA would be blamed on Victoria? But some shit had to have gone down to justify Victoria getting fired with no warning.
Jesse Jackson's team probably threatened to drop the hammer on Reddit for making him look bad and Victoria's job was offered up as sacrifice.
Comment by [deleted] at 03/07/2015 at 02:15 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
/u/kn0thing is going to have to explain, like it or not. Half the default subs are shut down over this; copouts like "we don't discuss that" just aren't going to work.
Comment by MRhodes22 at 03/07/2015 at 02:36 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I have not been on reddit all day, what happened work the Jesse Jackson AMA?
Comment by [deleted] at 03/07/2015 at 03:32 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
I mean no one likes Jesse Jackson and reddit sure let him know but this nigga marched with Dr. King during the bad times, so I don't think he would be too bothered by reddit's abrasive nature and casual racism.
There's so much of reddit that's more offensive than anything that went down in that AMA so I don't think it had anything to do with what happened to Victoria.
Comment by FieryXJoe at 03/07/2015 at 03:44 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Dude if all these defaults stay down until we get an explanation we will get an explanation
Comment by leftee at 03/07/2015 at 05:48 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Maybe Jessie's people saw the actual content of the AMA, picked up a phone, and then threatened to sue. Jackson makes his living doing this, so it isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
Comment by nSquib at 03/07/2015 at 10:22 UTC
1 upvotes, 0 direct replies
Here[1] a Quora exec gives several plausible reasons Victoria was fired he claims came from higher ups here at reddit.
