https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3bwgjf/riama_set_to_private_over_mod_firing/
created by eonOne on 02/07/2015 at 18:42 UTC*
11442 upvotes, 110 top-level comments (showing 25)
(thanks to /u/afrofagne[1], /u/confluencer[2] and others for the suggestion)
For posterity[3].
3: http://i.imgur.com/f4dU8F3.png
Full comments on /r/OutOfTheLoop[4] - ***Now locked***
4: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/
/u/karmanaut explains the decision[5] and how he only found out via modmail from an AMA participant[6], who chimes in here[7].
5: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq204d
7: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq4wso
He seems to be continuing the discussion[8] on /r/bestof
"This is the beginning of the end for Reddit."
"I think [Reddit]'s about to jump the shark."
/r/Science mod contemplates solidarity
"Maybe Victoria will file a sexual harassment suit, and this Pao thing will come full circle."
9: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq2fyw
11: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq3moo
12: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq4hsb
One commenter finds the silver lining[13].
13: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq396x
Why do we even need hand-holding[14] in AMAs?
14: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq23b9
Shutting down a default sub is literally the worst thing[15].
15: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq3d7i
Maybe the admins want to monetize AMAs[16].
16: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6anb
If Channing Tatum doesn't need Victoria[17], maybe nobody does.
Even Voat[18] has chimed in! Update: now they're having server issues.
18: https://voat.co/v/MeanwhileOnReddit/comments/193062
24: https://np.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/3bw66c/admin_chooter_aka_victoria_has_been_let_go_from/
/r/AdviceAnimals learns the news
/u/kn0thing has something to say[29]:
29: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp
We don't talk about specific employees, but I do want you to know that I'm here to triage AMA requests in the interim.
I posted this on r/IamaMods but I'm reposting here:
We get that losing Victoria has a significant impact on the way you manage your community. I'd really like to understand how we can help solve these problems, because I know r/IAMA thrived before her and will thrive after.
We're prepared to help coordinate and schedule AMAs. I've got the inbound coming through my inbox right now and many of the people who come on to do AMAs are excited to do them without assistance (most recently, the noteworthy Channing Tatum AMA).
/u/kn0thing is in full damage control mode[30] now:
30: https://np.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csqcuk6
We were prepared to handle today's (and upcoming AMAs) -- we'd setup AMA@reddit.com and prepped a team, but unfortunately a couple of these subs have gone private.
/r/science goes dark[31]!
31: http://i.imgur.com/BP4wLQ0.png
/r/circlejerk doesn't know what to do with itself[32]!
32: http://i.imgur.com/N4CWOPq.png
/r/movies goes down as well[33]!
33: http://i.imgur.com/Mo1Figr.png
/u/AMorpork declares Dramacon 1.5
Victoria (/u/chooter) shows up in /r/pics and answers questions[34]! (Just not those questions.)
On Twitter, mathematician Edward Frenkel is mad[35] about[36] being shut out in the middle of an AMA.
35: https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616653911835807745
36: https://twitter.com/edfrenkel/status/616662322623459330
Meanwhile, #RedditRevolt[37] and Reddit[38] are trending on Twitter.
37: https://twitter.com/hashtag/redditrevolt?src=rela
38: https://twitter.com/search?q=Reddit&src=tren&data_id=tweet%3A616767677479190529
/r/Upvoted is feeling the burn[39].
39: https://np.reddit.com/r/Upvoted/comments/3btpig/025_a_mile_in_someone_elses_shoes/
Fuck me. I get home from my commute and everything's gone to hell.
Subs gone private:
I'll update as I can. There's a live thread[44] going on for more updates.
40: https://np.reddit.com/r/books/comments/3bxqrm/lets_talk_about_uchooter/
41: https://np.reddit.com/r/books/comments/3bxv9i/when_this_post_is_15_minutes_old_rbooks_will_go/
42: https://i.imgur.com/FZ7fxk9.png
The Jesse Jackson AMA angle heats up with shadowbanned users and deleted comments[58]
45: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9822580
46: http://www.businessinsider.com/reddits-ama-subreddit-down-after-victoria-taylor-depature-2015-7
48: http://gizmodo.com/reddit-is-tearing-itself-apart-1715545184
49: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/03/reddit_in_turmoil/
50: http://www.vocativ.com/news/207800/reddit-ama-shut-down-after-reddit-employee-let-go/
51: http://techraptor.net/content/developing-popular-reddit-sub-riama-others-goes-private
52: http://gawker.com/reddit-in-chaos-after-allegedly-firing-ama-coordinator-1715556970
54: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1074284
56: http:///m.snopes.com/2015/07/03/reddit-blackout-2015/
57: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33379571
Keep track of the status of default subreddits with this tool[59].
59: http://www.randalolson.com/apps/default_subreddit_status.html
Possible info on Victoria's firing
Former Reddit CEO /u/yishan petitioned to bring Victoria back
Change.org petition to remove Ellen Pao as CEO
Demands for boycott of Reddit gold predictably rewarded with gold
Comment by chickenmagic at 02/07/2015 at 19:37 UTC
883 upvotes, 4 direct replies
How often do r/outoftheloop threads get locked? I submitted the question, and it was literally my first submission ever there.
Comment by Distq at 02/07/2015 at 20:44 UTC
365 upvotes, 9 direct replies
/r/circlejerk[1] is now private.
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/circlejerk
Comment by ANewMachine615 at 02/07/2015 at 19:35 UTC
171 upvotes, 2 direct replies
/u/chooter is actively replying in /r/centuryclub; not sure if everyone can see that or it's only the karma-rich among us. But no comments yet on the cause, just lots of "thank you" (it's an appreciation thread).
Comment by zzzluap95 at 02/07/2015 at 23:57 UTC*
681 upvotes, 10 direct replies
^I ^posted ^this ^on ^another ^thread ^but ^it ^got ^deleted ^so ^I'll ^repost ^it ^here
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List of subreddits that have gone private (or are planning to) in the aftermath of Victoria's firing:
1: https://i.imgur.com/8DmswLW.png
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(will keep updating as more go private)
Comment by flirtydodo at 02/07/2015 at 19:02 UTC*
947 upvotes, 6 direct replies
for anyone complaining about threads getting deleted, 99% sure there is going to be a blog post and then we will drown in drama. lol i consider these threads like pre-game commentary
Comment by jsmooth7 at 02/07/2015 at 18:49 UTC
119 upvotes, 2 direct replies
There's some drama in this thread too.
Comment by AMorpork at 02/07/2015 at 20:49 UTC*
966 upvotes, 13 direct replies
Oh god, the mod solidarity thing wasn't a joke. **/r/science is now private.** (Edit: Screenshot[1] in case it's reversed.)
1: http://puu.sh/iL4NA/6e11c40504.png
We're at DramaCon 2 people. If /r/AskReddit goes dark we're going to be facing DramaCon 1 for the first time since MayMay June.
Edit 2: I just realized that /r/AskReddit won't go dark as the head mod is an admin. We need some new goalposts for DramaCon 1. /r/AdviceAnimals? I don't feel that /r/movies is enough to declare DramaCon 1.
Edit 4: Guys, I don't even know. This has exceeded my wildest dreams.
/r/AskReddit, /r/IAmA, /r/movies, /r/circlejerk, /r/science, /r/history, /r/gaming, /r/law, /r/Art, /r/CrappyDesign, /r/spain (lol), /r/listentothis, /r/videos.
I really fear we've reached peak drama.
Edit 5: We are in the dankest timeline.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 19:47 UTC
613 upvotes, 2 direct replies
kn0thing -
We don't talk about specific employees
At least not anymore...
Comment by jsmooth7 at 02/07/2015 at 19:46 UTC*
452 upvotes, 3 direct replies
It feels like Reddit wants to try out all these different things, but has no commitment to actually follow through with them. I don't think they have any long term vision of what they want to be, or any plan on how to get there.
A number of times they've introduced a new project with nothing more than a vague idea. Then no further direction is provided and a few months later the project is quietly killed. RedditMade (killed by a flood of shitty T-shirts no one wanted) and RedditNotes (killed by the fact no one even knew what the fuck they were) would fit in this category.
Still, despite the lack of admin direction provided, some projects still manage to get off the ground. And yet they still somehow find a way to screw up these Reddit successes. The redditgifts marketplace was actually pretty good. It actually made money, and when combined with the gift exchanges was a very unique platform. So naturally the admins killed it, with zero warning.
AMAs are also very successful and draw a huge number of new users to the site. It's certainly very unique to reddit. They've even built a stand alone app for them, so clearly this is something very important to the site. Victoria is obviously a huge part of the success... so naturally they get rid of her with zero warning.
I realize there are a limited number of reddit admins, and they have limited resources, but this is ridiculous. I don't even think it's possible to make more short-sighted decisions than they have in the past year.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 19:25 UTC
97 upvotes, 3 direct replies
"They can't just take the sub... Can they?"
lol. Where do people get the idea that a subreddit is a fortress even against admins?
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 19:01 UTC
1318 upvotes, 4 direct replies
This seems to be a seriously stupid decision. We have several AMAs upcoming in /r/books and have no idea how to contact the authors.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 18:49 UTC
1699 upvotes, 3 direct replies
"Hey guys Victoria is helping me out today"
RIP
Comment by teknomonk at 03/07/2015 at 00:28 UTC*
82 upvotes, 2 direct replies
/r/Iama - 8,521,238 subscribers
/r/science - 8,595,726 subscribers
/r/movies - 7,662,117 subscribers
/r/circlejerk - 254,505 subscribers
/r/gaming - 8,022,320 subscribers
/r/history - 3,431,562 subscribers
/r/art - 3,256,241 subscribers
/r/crappydesign - 189,355 subscribers
/r/askreddit - 8,917,673 subscribers
/r/sexwithbears - 233,144 subscribers
/r/law - 40,776 subscribers
r/listentothis ^1 - 3,354,651 subscribers
/r/PaoMustResign/ - 7,535 subscribers
/r/spain - 5,829 subscribers
/r/splitdepthgifs - 41,023 subscribers
/r/PiratesoftheCaribbean - 323 subscribers
/r/ienjoybathing - 124,835 subscribers
/r/htgawm - 3,311 subscribers
/r/videos - 8,081,529 subscribers
/r/de_IAmA - 66,302 subscribers
r/starcitizen - 51,965 subscribers
losses so far
Comment by Oxus007 at 02/07/2015 at 18:45 UTC
407 upvotes, 3 direct replies
There's no drama party like a karmanaut party.
Bold move taking on the Admins head on like this.
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 19:05 UTC
397 upvotes, 2 direct replies
Normally I just sit back and laugh at mod/admin drama, but I'm genuinely sad by this. I'm sure the admins had their reasons, but I really loved Victoria. Oh well. 😕
Comment by slowclapcitizenkane at 02/07/2015 at 19:52 UTC
70 upvotes, 1 direct replies
They shot themselves in the food with this.
R.I.P. in peace, popcorn.
Comment by Christoph_Blocher at 02/07/2015 at 21:32 UTC
179 upvotes, 1 direct replies
The /r/circlejerk response is absolutely brilliant.
this time to restructure our process for jerking.
My sides
I can't wait for restructured jerking to resume.
Comment by TheForrestFire at 02/07/2015 at 18:47 UTC*
494 upvotes, 5 direct replies
I don't understand why the Jesse Jackson AMA would be blamed on Victoria? But some shit had to have gone down to justify Victoria getting fired with no warning.
Edit: After kn0thing's response[1], I'm a little worried we won't ever find out why she was fired. Hopefully /u/kn0thing will go into a little more detail somewhere visible now that the thread has been locked.
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/3bw39q/why_has_riama_been_set_to_private/csq6ekp
Comment by shiruken at 02/07/2015 at 21:11 UTC*
121 upvotes, 0 direct replies
/r/science is now a private subreddit
Due to an unexpected Reddit administrative personnel change /r/science is temporarily private so that we can resolve the situation, our apologizes for any disruption this may cause.
/r/science actually hosts a ton of AMAs and I believe Victoria was key to organizing and contacting many of the participants. The mods simply don't have the resources or the official clout of a Reddit admin when it comes to making formal invitations. Losing her so unexpectedly likely threw a wrench into many of those upcoming AMAs especially if she was the only point of contact.
http://i.imgur.com/9J2XTvX.jpg
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 18:47 UTC*
2327 upvotes, 7 direct replies
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Comment by davidreiss666 at 02/07/2015 at 18:54 UTC*
1301 upvotes, 6 direct replies
It wasn't a mod that was fired. Reddit as a company let an admin go: /u/chooter / Victoria. She helped set up most of the highly visible AMA threads. Not just at /r/IAMA but also at /r/Books, /r/Science, /r/Food, etc.
She was a great admin.
Edit: /r/History has gone private in solidarity with /r/IAMA, /r/Science, /r/Movies and other subreddits now.
Edit2: /r/AskReddit, /r/Art, /r/Videos, /r/listentothis, and others as well.
Comment by gizmo1024 at 02/07/2015 at 22:28 UTC
52 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Comment by Admiral_Piett at 02/07/2015 at 20:00 UTC
136 upvotes, 2 direct replies
So who wants to make the "AMA Request: Victoria" thread?
Comment by marckshark at 02/07/2015 at 19:31 UTC
87 upvotes, 1 direct replies
aww she was my last secret santa match -- good luck with everything, victoria
Comment by [deleted] at 02/07/2015 at 18:52 UTC
158 upvotes, 3 direct replies
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