Comment by ani625 on 01/09/2021 at 17:44 UTC

275 upvotes, 55 direct replies (showing 25)

View submission: COVID denialism and policy clarifications

Ban r/NoNewNormal immediately for breaking our rules against brigading

Sure, we'll take it. But a better reason would be for dangerous misinformation with a potential to kill people.

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Comment by [deleted] at 01/09/2021 at 18:03 UTC

40 upvotes, 7 direct replies

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Comment by b1ak3 at 01/09/2021 at 20:10 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Reddit didn't want to ban NNN for life-threatening misinformation because if they did so they would create a precedent that they would be unwilling to enforce. Fairly enforcing such a rules against misinformation world require banning subs like /r/conservative (which peddles covid misinformation just as dangerous as NNN), and would create a shit storm that the admins don't have the desire nor the backbone to manage.

Comment by rocketwidget at 01/09/2021 at 18:37 UTC

9 upvotes, 2 direct replies

~~with potential to~~ **has** kill**ed**

There's no reasonable question that many, many people have died from COVID-19 already, as a direct result of consuming medical disinformation hosted and promoted by all major social media companies in exchange for ad revenue, etc.

Comment by Broken-Butterfly at 01/09/2021 at 19:06 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

misinformation with a potential to kill people.

Potential? These lies have already killed people.

Comment by ISTNEINTR00KVLTKRIEG at 01/09/2021 at 20:20 UTC*

3 upvotes, 3 direct replies

Ban r/NoNewNormal immediately for breaking our rules against brigading

Sure, we'll take it. But a better reason would be for dangerous misinformation with a potential to kill people.

Seriously. I've been saying that goddamn sub should have been banned well over a goddamn year ago. The damage has been fucking done. Reddit responds to things slower than mollases rolling down a hill. I've now seen this with The Donald AND NNN.

If anyone has any faith in Reddit doing the "right thing" in an appropriate amount of time? They're delusional.

Getting Steve Huffman the fuck out of there would be a start. He seems to care even less than Mark Zuckerberg does.

He sounds like some jackass 13 year old Lolbertarian edgelord. Newsflash, dipshit - Democracy doesn't work when you're fanning the flames of dysfunction and instability. Maybe you've heard the adage, "Your liberty to swing your fist ends just where my nose begins.”

The fucking Greeks figured this shit out.

https://www.engadget.com/reddit-211856313.html

Comment by supergauntlet at 01/09/2021 at 18:03 UTC

7 upvotes, 4 direct replies

hey /u/spez wanna post your Ls online a little less? how about taking an actual stance instead of hiding behind this "b-b-but muh free speech" nonsense? harassment is already bannable, why don't the admins take a hard line about people literally lying about things that are currently getting people killed?

or would that hurt your precious bottom line too much? don't fucking peddle this bullshit about how they were "brigading" we all fucking know the only reason you did this was because a bunch of subs went private. Why don't you just admit you'll only take action when it specifically means a financial cost?

This website sucks and I want an alternative that isn't run by a bunch of spineless wannabe post apocalypse larpers.

Comment by ky1e at 01/09/2021 at 18:08 UTC

3 upvotes, 0 direct replies

the subreddit was trying to shield itself in plausible deniability...of their covid denialism.

Comment by opiegagnon at 02/09/2021 at 13:33 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Sorry for the late to the party post, but if they Ban r/NoNewNormal for dangerous misinformation it would set a precedent that they would have to follow next time a sub posts misinformation.

This way they can placate people by Banning r/NoNewNormal but still have the ability to say that r/conspiracy is not brigading and allow them to spread misinformation.

It is a complete sham of a banning, this is like putting a bandage on a severed hand. Sure you did something, but what good or help is what you did?

Edit: Not sure why I capitalized Ban and Banning, but leaving them there!

Comment by freakierchicken at 01/09/2021 at 18:09 UTC

6 upvotes, 0 direct replies

The Al Capone tax evasion method. This allows them to dodge the issue at hand but still appease the mob, so to speak. I mean, I usually take a win as a win but this is a bit sour

Comment by Predatatoes at 01/09/2021 at 21:29 UTC

3 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Go ban all the marijuana subs that claim smoking weed will cure [insert literally any illness here].

Comment by Own-After at 01/09/2021 at 21:51 UTC

4 upvotes, 1 direct replies

Are we going to ban subreddits who brigaded r/NoNewNormal? Because those subs broke the rules too

Or do we just pick and choose rule enforcement?

Comment by LettuceBeGrateful at 01/09/2021 at 22:31 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Don't wanna alienate those anti-vaxxers. They buy reddit gold too.

Comment by Wippwipp at 01/09/2021 at 21:03 UTC

2 upvotes, 1 direct replies

If you think censorship is going to help stop the spread of "dangerous misinformation", you are sorely mistaken. Even Reddit, callous as they are, will admit this. You are seeing free speech dissolved before your very eyes, enjoy it while you can.

Comment by noitalljruss at 01/09/2021 at 20:14 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

You mean like what the vaxxxine is doing? Lol

Comment by merlinsbeers at 01/09/2021 at 21:29 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

That would imply Reddit understands morality.

Comment by [deleted] at 02/09/2021 at 02:52 UTC

2 upvotes, 0 direct replies

No, that doesn’t play well with the money.

Comment by know_comment at 01/09/2021 at 18:52 UTC

-4 upvotes, 3 direct replies

You sounds EXACTLY like Joe Biden urging huge tech corporations that maintain a seemingly colluding monopoly on the free speech in the new public square of social media, to censor speech deemed "misinformation" ie goes against the ever changing state backed narrative on COVID-19.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS6Aw-hM190

This is the same Joe Biden who said:

There’s a simple, basic proposition: If you’re vaccinated, you’re not going to be hospitalized, you’re not going to be in an ICU unit, and you’re not going to die.

That's very dangerous misinformation, right? We can all agree on that So why are you parroting this guy?

But EVEN the corporate backed "fact checkers" are lying and carrying water, by framing his statement as:

"You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations," Biden said.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/07/22/remarks-by-president-biden-in-a-cnn-town-hall-with-don-lemon/

It is rare for people who are fully vaccinated to contract COVID-19, but it does happen.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/22/joe-biden/biden-exaggerates-efficacy-covid-19-vaccines/

oh that's NOT the argument he was making, as I just showed. So I think your script isn't about "misinformation" at all, it's about a narrative. And just like that, i've just proven it. There's no argument to be had. you win in your effort to censor, but you'll always be wrong.

This "brigade" has been brought to you by subreddit drama and not any of the subs on the censorshit list.