208 upvotes, 5 direct replies (showing 5)
I keep attempting to raise an issue, to no avail (which actually sort of bolsters my point); many of the participating subs *also* promulgate misinformation and disinformation, just a different type of it.
Obligatory disclaimer: I'm vaccinated, I mask up, my kid masks up, we follow the guidelines and always have.
Example of what I'm saying: Some subreddits, like PokemonGo, have banned users (including myself) for suggesting that being outside in fresh air and sunlight and getting exercise is a GOOD thing. To be utterly clear, I referenced CDC, WHO, Harvard and JAMA data to support my argument - data that shows how recycled air inside buildings is a major contributed to the spread of the virus, how sunlight kills the virus on surfaces at a faster rate (which obviously reduces transmission by physical contact), how vitamin D deficiency MAY be a factor in severe COVID symptoms (and having good Vitamin D levels is a good thing regardless of whether it matters against COVID), and how being overweight/obese triples your risk of severe COVID symptoms.
Banned because the narrative the mods were trying to push is that you must stay locked in your home and do NOT go outside.
So, if the CDC data is true, telling people to stay indoors and do NOT go outside is actually potentially HARMFUL MISINFORMATION. Yet, you're banned if you argue against it, EVEN IF YOU LINK TO THE CDC, which is the source these mods are saying we MUST abide by for ALL COVID information.
Of course, the argument against me was "You're telling people to take off their mask and not get vaccinated and that going outside in the sun will protect them from COVID".
Absolutely fucking not.
It helps. HELPS. To be outside, in fresh air, in the sun. Still stay away from other people, still get your god damned vaccine, still wash your hands, still wear your mask when you must be near others. But go outside and get fresh air and sunshine, and ideally, some exercise, too- they teach COVID patients breathing exercises to restore lung function, but suggest that cardio is even better. Get outside and go for a run, away from other people.
Just don't talk about it on Reddit or you'll get banned for some reason.
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So my question is; why does it seem like this campaign is targeting only a specific type of misinformation and specific subs? NO recognition of the utter BULLSHIT being spewed on numerous subreddits participating in this very protest and being heralded as stalwarts of truth as a result? I cannot help but think there's some sort of ulterior motive here; if the campaign were against misinformation and disinformation in totality, we'd see many of these subs looking inward and addressing their own mods who censor any COVID-related comment that does not align with their specific view, EVEN IF you post the data from the very sources that say we must abide for our information.
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And before anyone calls bullshit, here's the direct links from the CDC and JAMA.
COVID spreads more easily indoors: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html[1][2]
1: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html
2: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html
Cleaning and disinfecting instructions which state that sunlight more quickly kills the virus on surfaces: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening%5C_america%5C_guidance.pdf[3][4]
3: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening%5C_america%5C_guidance.pdf
4: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening_america_guidance.pdf
Vitamin D may be helpful against COVID severity: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157[5][6]
5: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157
6: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157
Fauci endorses Vitamin D as potentially helpful (and certainly not harmful): “If you are deficient in vitamin D, that does have an impact on your susceptibility to infection. So I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself taking vitamin D supplements”
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html[7][8]
7: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html
8: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html
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Obesity triples risk: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html[9][10]
9: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html
10: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html
Comment by Nuclearsunburn at 31/08/2021 at 00:34 UTC
64 upvotes, 3 direct replies
Yup. Nuanced opinions are a thing of the past, you have to swallow one tribal philosophy or the other to be accepted. I’m with you. I’m vaccinated. I wear a mask in a place where I absolutely get sideways looks for doing so. The science on the benefits of vaccines is proven and not really debatable. Long term effects are obviously unknown. Long term effects of Covid are likely much worse.
What is debatable and SHOULD be debated are the cost / benefits of shutdowns, mandates, government aid, censorship, and other POLICY decisions.
Comment by Pangolin007 at 31/08/2021 at 00:17 UTC
-10 upvotes, 1 direct replies
Some subreddits, like PokemonGo, have banned users (including myself) for suggesting that being outside in fresh air and sunlight and getting exercise is a GOOD thing
Proof?
Comment by [deleted] at 30/08/2021 at 23:59 UTC
-15 upvotes, 2 direct replies
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Comment by [deleted] at 30/08/2021 at 21:43 UTC
63 upvotes, 1 direct replies
It's sad to see some people so bound to keep everybody inside. Please, go outside, but do it responsibly. Same for seeing at least some people, humans are social animals so make sure you have a support group of people you do see (a bubble of sorts) if you are in a heavily affect region with low vaccination rate.
Comment by [deleted] at 30/08/2021 at 21:37 UTC
-46 upvotes, 1 direct replies
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