Comment by [deleted] on 30/08/2021 at 17:09 UTC

56 upvotes, 11 direct replies (showing 11)

View submission: Why are subreddits going private/pinning protest posts?—Protests against anti-vaxxing subreddits.

Answer:

(From a mod of one of the participating subs)

Our subreddits are closed until the Reddit administration removes /r/NoNewNormal and other vaccine misinformation subreddits from Reddit. We cannot remain open and also keep our consciences clear.

Message the moderators of the subreddits you frequent and ask that they make their subreddits private as well. Tell the Reddit administration to remove /r/NoNewNormal and other COVID vaccine misinformation from their website: https://www.reddit.com/report

See https://redd.it/pbe8nj[1] for more information.

1: https://redd.it/pbe8nj

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Comment by tvllvs at 31/08/2021 at 15:19 UTC

1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

Lmao don’t disagree but I think you and people like you are losers

Comment by [deleted] at 31/08/2021 at 01:29 UTC

1 upvotes, 1 direct replies

To add to this, scientific misinformation subs in general need to go. Looking over at r/climateskeptics as well. Climate change and ocean acification are literally the greatest threats to humanity right now, far moreso than COVID-19 ever could be, and yet openly spreading propaganda on the issue is supported on here. r/conservative promotes climate denial as well. Ever since the whole issue with NNN started, they've become even more pro-COVID misinformation.

Comment by [deleted] at 31/08/2021 at 00:43 UTC

-1 upvotes, 0 direct replies

I frequent /r/asksciencefiction and thank you for doing this.

Comment by Kuroodo at 30/08/2021 at 22:36 UTC

49 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I've been out of the loop on this and have to ask: What is the definition of misinformation here?

I ask because many places have outright banned productive discussion and opinions of any perspective that isn't what the US government and the CDC is spitting out, rather than the actual spread misinformation.

Is the purpose of this campaign to ban actual misinformation (i.e articles claiming facts that aren't true), or is it a campaign to ban people thinking differently than you and questioning authority (i.e banning freedom of speech/discussion)?

Comment by SushiThief at 30/08/2021 at 22:02 UTC

28 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Oh my goodness, NNN is actually *relishing* the fact that subs are going private in protest.

Comment by [deleted] at 30/08/2021 at 21:48 UTC

18 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Do you realize you’re trying to take peoples free speech away because you’re afraid of counter-opinions to yours? You people are ridiculous. Grow the fuck up.

Comment by [deleted] at 30/08/2021 at 20:42 UTC

48 upvotes, 2 direct replies

Quite literally the equivalent of an 8 year old holding their breath and stomping their feet throwing a fit. Somebody said something I don't like daddy so ban them. And then when they don't, you throw a tantrum. I sincerely hope reddit takes away your mod status and gives it to somebody who will run a sub reddit for what it is supposed to be about and why people joined, I mean why would somebody want a star trek sub to be about star trek and not covid right?

Comment by YeetCannon50AE at 30/08/2021 at 20:33 UTC

30 upvotes, 2 direct replies

I hope the Reddit admins dejannie you and gives your subreddit to a new Jannie that cares more about your subreddits topic and less about virtue signaling. You literally are an easily replaceable volunteer that works for free and you expect people to take you seriously.

Comment by Left4DayZ1 at 30/08/2021 at 20:08 UTC*

209 upvotes, 5 direct replies

I keep attempting to raise an issue, to no avail (which actually sort of bolsters my point); many of the participating subs *also* promulgate misinformation and disinformation, just a different type of it.

Obligatory disclaimer: I'm vaccinated, I mask up, my kid masks up, we follow the guidelines and always have.

Example of what I'm saying: Some subreddits, like PokemonGo, have banned users (including myself) for suggesting that being outside in fresh air and sunlight and getting exercise is a GOOD thing. To be utterly clear, I referenced CDC, WHO, Harvard and JAMA data to support my argument - data that shows how recycled air inside buildings is a major contributed to the spread of the virus, how sunlight kills the virus on surfaces at a faster rate (which obviously reduces transmission by physical contact), how vitamin D deficiency MAY be a factor in severe COVID symptoms (and having good Vitamin D levels is a good thing regardless of whether it matters against COVID), and how being overweight/obese triples your risk of severe COVID symptoms.

Banned because the narrative the mods were trying to push is that you must stay locked in your home and do NOT go outside.

So, if the CDC data is true, telling people to stay indoors and do NOT go outside is actually potentially HARMFUL MISINFORMATION. Yet, you're banned if you argue against it, EVEN IF YOU LINK TO THE CDC, which is the source these mods are saying we MUST abide by for ALL COVID information.

Of course, the argument against me was "You're telling people to take off their mask and not get vaccinated and that going outside in the sun will protect them from COVID".

Absolutely fucking not.

It helps. HELPS. To be outside, in fresh air, in the sun. Still stay away from other people, still get your god damned vaccine, still wash your hands, still wear your mask when you must be near others. But go outside and get fresh air and sunshine, and ideally, some exercise, too- they teach COVID patients breathing exercises to restore lung function, but suggest that cardio is even better. Get outside and go for a run, away from other people.

Just don't talk about it on Reddit or you'll get banned for some reason.

So my question is; why does it seem like this campaign is targeting only a specific type of misinformation and specific subs? NO recognition of the utter BULLSHIT being spewed on numerous subreddits participating in this very protest and being heralded as stalwarts of truth as a result? I cannot help but think there's some sort of ulterior motive here; if the campaign were against misinformation and disinformation in totality, we'd see many of these subs looking inward and addressing their own mods who censor any COVID-related comment that does not align with their specific view, EVEN IF you post the data from the very sources that say we must abide for our information.

And before anyone calls bullshit, here's the direct links from the CDC and JAMA.

COVID spreads more easily indoors: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html[1][2]

1: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html

2: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/outdoor-activities.html

Cleaning and disinfecting instructions which state that sunlight more quickly kills the virus on surfaces: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening%5C_america%5C_guidance.pdf[3][4]

3: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening%5C_america%5C_guidance.pdf

4: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/pdf/reopening_america_guidance.pdf

Vitamin D may be helpful against COVID severity: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157[5][6]

5: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157

6: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157

Fauci endorses Vitamin D as potentially helpful (and certainly not harmful): “If you are deficient in vitamin D, that does have an impact on your susceptibility to infection. So I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself taking vitamin D supplements”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html[7][8]

7: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html

8: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/26/how-to-know-if-you-have-a-vitamin-d-deficiency.html

Obesity triples risk: https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obesity-and-covid-19.html[9][10]