Comment by re_Claire on 17/02/2025 at 19:23 UTC*

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View submission: How Men Become Aziz Ansari

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Bisexual woman here - completely agree with the fact that we don’t have the tools to discuss it well. It’s a massive issue really because I’ve been both raped and in the same situation as described as how Aziz behaved and whilst people are more willing to talk about rape they don’t want to talk about the greyer areas.

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Comment by MyFiteSong at 18/02/2025 at 02:22 UTC

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I guess because it’s complicated. Should Aziz have known better? Yes absolutely. But also so many men are taught that that’s how you behave. I grew up watching TV in the 90’s and early 00’s and women were often portrayed like voiceless prey, and men as sex pests - and it was seen as a big old joke or even just how things are. Years of conditioning does make people think it’s okay, and think that’s just how it works. We need to do better by both men and women.

No, don't give them this excuse. Don't infantilize them. Men aren't stupid, and they understand consent on a deep, nuanced level. Some of them just don't care when it's a no from a woman.

https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/mythcommunication-its-not-that-they-dont-understand-they-just-dont-like-the-answer/

Comment by warrant2k at 19/02/2025 at 00:30 UTC

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I grew up with Pepe' LePew cartoons and never for a moment thought that was normal.