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“Other groups experienced adversity so you should too” is not a convincing argument.
Also the full article reports that less than half of women and roughly half of men believed that all male groups are a positive benefit for men. Other sociological research arrives to similar conclusions that, contrary to mainstream opinion that all men are part of the “boys club”, most men do not have an in-group bias. That is, most men don’t see other random men in public and have any sort of distant perception of “those are my people” the same way that many women, poc, and lgbt people do.
This makes activism even more difficult. The pre existing social affinity that many women, poc, and lgbt feel for each other was and still is a boon to political organizing in these spheres.
Additionally, I think if more people were honest with themselves, they would admit that they feel uncomfortable and unsettled at the thought of all male groups discussing social issues since there is the inherent risk these men may not be fully aligned with the preferred sociopolitical viewpoints.
Comment by UnevenGlow at 19/02/2025 at 15:48 UTC
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This is an interesting, roundabout approach to the idea that patriarchy is clearly dangerous to society
Comment by Silly-Ad91 at 15/02/2025 at 21:13 UTC
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Despite being around women and relying on them for emotional labour - some men refuse to learn emotional skills. At some point you have to be an adult. You can’t expect other groups to fix this for you.
“Men should not do the bare minimum work to emotionally connect with others” is not a convincing argument either.