Comment by yeah_youbet on 21/01/2025 at 02:09 UTC

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View submission: Male victimhood ideology driven by perceived status loss, not economic hardship, among Korean men

yet there is so much that are invisible privileges most men take for granted.

It's an invisible privilege because it's not actually a privilege as much as it is just a lack of intentionally targeted injustices toward minorities. I think we need to stop framing this as a privilege, and focus on the fact that we have systems of oppression affecting minority groups that have yet to be dismantled because we keep pointing at working class white people and treating them like they're the same as the wealthy elite, and grouping them in with the same "privileges", and participating in the same infighting over identity politics that the elites have been perpetuating for the better part of two centuries.

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Comment by bananophilia at 21/01/2025 at 13:03 UTC

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it's not actually a privilege as much as it is just a lack of intentionally targeted injustices toward minorities.

That's what privilege is.

Comment by itchyouch at 21/01/2025 at 04:20 UTC

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We have different definitions for “invisible privileges.”

I agree with your take though.

When I say invisible, I mean that they are taken for granted and expected. Some non-gendered examples would be clean water on tap, mail showing up daily, having roads that are engineered and follow various guidelines for safety are the kinds of “invisible privileges” I’m referring to.

For men, we enjoy an advantage relative to women regardless of our color, wealth or education. Here’s some examples.

access to easy birth control in vending machines and at the store, while women have to go through a doctor
sense of physical safety, women talk about how even scrawny men can overpower them
control over our bodies, no one dictates how skinny or fat, or what we should eat to the extent women do. At worst it’s usually, get jacked bro.
jobs that don’t discriminate if we have kids, while women are penalized for it
being human, not sex objects that should “smile for men or look the part for other women.”
intimate-partner violence that can kill them. Yes men can get poisoned and women can do horrific things, but usually not on a whim with bare hands.
grace over household labor from society.

Many of these things have tremendous amounts of friction for women while have far less to almost no friction for men.

Where we agree is that, I believe we men (especially the non-wealthy) need to sit back in solidarity with other disenfranchised groups in order to dismantle things, but not as a mens issue or race issue or women's issue, but as people issues.