Comment by CylonSandhill on 03/02/2025 at 01:28 UTC

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View submission: Ross Nusser’s public statement on ICE

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Yikes. Lots and lots of factual inaccuracies to unpack here.

First, birthright citizenship isn’t “policy,” it’s a Constitutional Amendment.

Second, it’s 33 countries have unrestricted birthright citizenship, not 8. And dozens more have ancestry based birthright citizenship. Get your facts sorted.

Third, do you know why birthright citizenship exists here and in many of the other countries where it exists? It exists to overcome the Dred Scott SCOTUS decision that stated black people could not be citizens (despite that white Americans had been afforded unquestioned birthright citizenship for decades). This was done to ensure equality under the law and to ensure there was not a legal mechanism to create 2nd class citizens who were subject to the law but not protected by it. Your political views are a reprehensible extension of the adage about modern conservatism that holds that there must be out groups that the law binds but does not protect and in groups that the law protects but does not bind. Your views should be roundly rejected by just Americans. This Amendment also overturned the racist and unconstitutional Chinese Exclusion Act.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/sites/default/files/research/birthright_citizenship_factsheet_241017.pdf

Fourth, all persons in the US are entitled to due process and protection under the law regardless of whether they are citizens or not. The 5th and 14th Amendments state “persons” not “citizens”

https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-xiv/clauses/701

Fifth, while there are certainly real and moral issues with how undocumented people are exploited for labor, they are at least paid. If they are rounded up and forced to work (instead of choosing to as they do now) and not allowed to leave or be paid (as with the system trump is enacting), that is the same as state sponsored and sanctioned slavery, which is far worse. The system trump is enacting also allows for greater exploitation since business owners can now threaten workers with a far more real threat of deportation.

Undocumented workers contribute billions in taxes annually but do not qualify for benefits. To say they do not contribute is just wrong.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/topics/tax-contributions

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