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View submission: Is nirvana a permanent state?
Well that is false. If your description of nirvana was correct then we would all be awakened right now and therefore there would be no need for anyone to pursue nirvana.
Nirvana is the "*blowing out*" or "*quenching*" of the activity of the grasping mind and its related unease. This takes effort. Even sudden awakening [1]needs a spark to ignite that awakening.
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudden_awakening
Comment by dhamma_rob at 24/02/2025 at 19:49 UTC
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That's basically what he said. The cessation of defilements and dukkha can itself be an object of mind/meditation, the realization of the Unconditioned, i.e., the mind recognizes what it is to not be conditioned by suffering. The possibility of this realization is ever present, but the realization itself is conditioned by following the Eightfold Path and bringing and end to identification and appropriation of aggregates and sense bases.
Comment by IntransigentErudite at 27/02/2025 at 21:53 UTC
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My god dude, we are all already awakened, if we weren't it would not be something one could realize. Practice is awakening as dogen pointed out. The natural state is awakening.
Pursuing nirvana is delusion as its exactly where you are.